[billthecat]

"The Mac OS is probably not quite as secure as Windows is now, but it’s gotten a lot closer."

What the...? Why does the Macalope say that?

[pawhite524]

In Worstall's defense* I believe he said, "Forbes is as safe and reliable as the HAL 9000."

*Yes this is tomfoolery and an attempt at satire. I am not defending Tim Worst(of)all. No hate mail, please, but please consider sending a donation to a reputable entity fighting life threatening diseases for loved ones across the life span.

All the best to you and yours...

[Dennistrator]

"Chambers then throws up some charts ". I don't want to look at anything Chambers throws up, and he should be made to clean up after himself. As for clowns, "Krusty"-that would be John Dvorak.

[Dennistrator]

Billthecat said:

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"The Mac OS is probably not quite as secure as Windows is now, but it’s gotten a lot closer." What the...? Why does the Macalope say that?

I won't speak for the Macalope, but I direct your attention to Smotr. This is an automatic ejection system for shooting soviet pilots from their fighter aircraft when the system senses a crash is imminent. The system got to be pretty accurate because, well, the soviets had a lot of bad experiences with their jets over the years. Microsoft is in kind of the same place with security. Cupertino hasn't had all the grief that Redmond has had. With the rapidity of their improvement, maybe Apple is learning from Microsofts misfortunes.

[Hamranhansenhansen]

> The Mac OS is probably
> not quite as secure as
> Windows is now

That is as absurd a statement as anything in Forbes.

Windows 7 runs more than 50% of Windows XP malware. Windows has more viruses than apps.

You can buy a Mac today and check a box in System Preferences to disallow any app that did not come from Mac App Store, which is audited and maintained by Apple. Software Update fixed the Java flaw within days for most of the platform. Windows has nothing like that. Windows PC's have BIOS from 1982 — totally insecure.

The one area where Windows leads is it has more bolt-on security features — but that is only because it needs them because it lacks basic security features. That is like saying a guy with Hepatitis and Chlamidia is healthier than a guy without because the sick one is taking more medicines.

[ingus]

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> The Mac OS is probably > not quite as secure as > Windows is now That is as absurd a statement as anything in Forbes. Windows 7 runs more than 50% of Windows XP malware. Windows has more viruses than apps. You can buy a Mac today and check a box in System Preferences to disallow any app that did not come from Mac App Store, which is audited and maintained by Apple. Software Update fixed the Java flaw within days for most of the platform. Windows has nothing like that. Windows PC's have BIOS from 1982 — totally insecure. The one area where Windows leads is it has more bolt-on security features — but that is only because it needs them because it lacks basic security features. That is like saying a guy with Hepatitis and Chlamidia is healthier than a guy without because the sick one is taking more medicines.

Or..., as you suggest, we live in a sterile Class 10 Clean Room and never venture out of it.

[wogsinheat]

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> The Mac OS is probably > not quite as secure as > Windows is now That is as absurd a statement as anything in Forbes. Windows 7 runs more than 50% of Windows XP malware. Windows has more viruses than apps. You can buy a Mac today and check a box in System Preferences to disallow any app that did not come from Mac App Store, which is audited and maintained by Apple. Software Update fixed the Java flaw within days for most of the platform. Windows has nothing like that. Windows PC's have BIOS from 1982 — totally insecure. The one area where Windows leads is it has more bolt-on security features — but that is only because it needs them because it lacks basic security features. That is like saying a guy with Hepatitis and Chlamidia is healthier than a guy without because the sick one is taking more medicines. Or..., as you suggest, we live in a sterile Class 10 Clean Room and never venture out of it.

Well that makes sense if you can find everything you want in the clean room. Or if you don't wish to go to parts of the world where people would rather kill you than talk to you:-)

[StefN]

Commenting on bozos has to be exhausting. Thanks for keeping it fun for us.

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wogsinheat, on 24 February 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

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> The Mac OS is probably > not quite as secure as > Windows is now That is as absurd a statement as anything in Forbes. Windows 7 runs more than 50% of Windows XP malware. Windows has more viruses than apps. You can buy a Mac today and check a box in System Preferences to disallow any app that did not come from Mac App Store, which is audited and maintained by Apple. Software Update fixed the Java flaw within days for most of the platform. Windows has nothing like that. Windows PC's have BIOS from 1982 — totally insecure. The one area where Windows leads is it has more bolt-on security features — but that is only because it needs them because it lacks basic security features. That is like saying a guy with Hepatitis and Chlamidia is healthier than a guy without because the sick one is taking more medicines. Or..., as you suggest, we live in a sterile Class 10 Clean Room and never venture out of it.

Well that makes sense if you can find everything you want in the clean room. Or if you don't wish to go to parts of the world where people would rather kill you than talk to you:-)

No room is big enough. As far as getting killed, a Class One is sufficient.

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wogsinheat, on 24 February 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

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> The Mac OS is probably > not quite as secure as > Windows is now That is as absurd a statement as anything in Forbes. Windows 7 runs more than 50% of Windows XP malware. Windows has more viruses than apps. You can buy a Mac today and check a box in System Preferences to disallow any app that did not come from Mac App Store, which is audited and maintained by Apple. Software Update fixed the Java flaw within days for most of the platform. Windows has nothing like that. Windows PC's have BIOS from 1982 — totally insecure. The one area where Windows leads is it has more bolt-on security features — but that is only because it needs them because it lacks basic security features. That is like saying a guy with Hepatitis and Chlamidia is healthier than a guy without because the sick one is taking more medicines. Or..., as you suggest, we live in a sterile Class 10 Clean Room and never venture out of it.

Well that makes sense if you can find everything you want in the clean room. Or if you don't wish to go to parts of the world where people would rather kill you than talk to you:-)

No room is big enough. As far as getting killed, a Class One is sufficient.

Correction-Clean room cleanliness goes down with class number... But you get the point.

[BrianM]

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Regarding the Java breach, I wonder how many people need to have Java installed on their systems. I have not had Java installed on the two MacBook Pro's I use since moving to Lion and now Mountain Lion. Can anyone enlighten me as to the Java use cases, besides games? Thanks, DC

It is common enough in IT support that most doing such work have it installed. Which commonly has them thinking everyone needs it, so it is probably installed on more systems than it needs to be.

[haineux]

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Regarding the Java breach, I wonder how many people need to have Java installed on their systems. I have not had Java installed on the two MacBook Pro's I use since moving to Lion and now Mountain Lion. Can anyone enlighten me as to the Java use cases, besides games? Thanks, DC

I have a pal who is a pro photographer. Customers order prints online using what is termed an "EOS" (electronic order system) -- and apparently all of them are near-identical, and all of them use Java. If I were underemployed, I'd stay up all night and replace them -- not to get rid of Java, but to make them have less-horrible user experience.