[phillipma]

What is the current state of affairs in OS X regarding file recovery after unintentionally deleting them. In the old days (pre OS X) it was generally possible to recover deleted files with a utility if you acted promptly and didn't do anything that would cause anything to be written to your drive. Seems like the FBI, CIA and other law enforcement agents are always finding ways to recover intentionally deleted files, even when considerable effort has been used to delete incriminating data. So it would seem reasonable to expect that what I want to do is possible.
But then ... most of those systems being recovered so well are not doubt Windows machines. Maybe things are different in the Mac world. What I've read more recently is that unlike previous Mac operating systems, OS X immediately trashes the file beyond recovery unless you already had some sort of 3rd party saftey net installed.
Anyone care to offer a suggestion as to whether I should spend my time trying to actually recover the deleted file ... or just bite the bullet and immediately begin trying to reconstitute the 20+ hours of work I just lost. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
p.s. I should add that I've now already lost a couple of hours waiting, while on two occasions TechToolPro had made it about 50% of the way through it's "scavenge" routine before crashing /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Chris Breen]

I've had reasonably good results with ProSoft Engineering's DataRescue X.
Chris

[phillipma]

/forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif almost 12 hrs later ... and one missed weekend vacation trip...
What a colossal waste of time it has been simply trying to recover a single file deleted in error ... even though I stopped using the drive immediately after doing it! This is would have been a trivial fix several years ago on older mac systems ... I know because I used to have to recover files for my students all the time.
The other main difference (other than ineffective tools) is the mind numbingly long time it takes to these programs to essentially do nothing worthwhile.
...so much for progress.
Its hard to believe that there isnt something built into such a supposedly high-end, user-friendly operating system. Or that there isnt some well-documented unix routine that would allow you to look for a recently deleted file by such things as name, file type, creator, date last saved ... anything would be better than the long, tedious, aimless, and (at least in my case) pointless scouring of an entire mamoth hard drive diligently cataloging every file it could find. Ironically after all that time looking it essentially found all the files that were readily accessible in the Finder and absolutely nothing more.
At least DataRescue X didnt crash... but that is small consolation for the fact that it took up about 2x or 3x the amount of time the I wasted with TechToolPro to accomplish nothing.... /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[griffman]

It's not true that OS X immediately trashes the files beyond recovery. I recovered, from 10.3, about 150 JPEG photos that I had accidentally deleted. I used Symantec's Utilities to do it. Time consuming, yes, but the data was there.
The only way it should truly be gone is if you used secure empty trash...
-rob.

[d00d]

Secure delete will do it, griff, or the data has been written over because that portion of disk was chosen to be written to by virtual memory, or any other file being written out.
Philipma, the reason these undelete utilities are forced to search the entire drive is that it's the only way to discover all those files. There are no directory entries for those files anymore. Some utilities allow for you to retrieve deleted files faster by maintaining a database of files you've deleted, but that needs to be installed before hand.

[pjskelti]

Such as ProSoft's Data Recycler X, which acts as a trap between the files and the Trash. Once you're sure you don't need them, they can be securely deleted through DRcycX or 'recovered' from it if deleted accidentally.

[phillipma]

OK folks! Here is the real deal!
http://www.binarybiz...ac-download.php
Within one hour of discovering this site I'd recovered everything I needed (... including having to download via modem, since building my office is in was closed) -- and the primary files I needed were in absolutely pristine and immediately useable condition. It would have taken less time if some of the the directions regarding demo; free quota and quota purchase had been clearer to someone working on limited sleep. I even managed to make that weekend trip (... albeit with a later than planned departure)
You can specify exactly what kind of file(s) you are looking for. Perfect! This is exactly what you want in this sort of situation where you know exactly what you are looking for. As a consequence, the search time with this method was less than 1/4th the time of the other software packages ... AND ... it actually found the valuable stuff.
I can't recommend this product more highly. Does exactly what it claims to do very effeciently and effectively. It definitely deserved to be better known. At least to the point of being included in discussions such as this when the next person contact this forum in a panic.

[d00d]

I think most people gloss over using Virtual Lab because it can be expensive.

[marco114]

This product does actually seem to work, VirtualLab Mac , however they have not released an Intel version yet, anyone know if they are working on one?

[zionreigns1]

Hi!
I accidently deleted a very important folder on my sis' ibook. Is there anyway I can recover it after the trash bin has been emptied? I do not have enough money to pay for software like VirtualLab, DataRescue II or OfficeSalvage. I know it's a silly question, but is there any free software out there that can undelete files on Mac effectively? Please help I'm desperate /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif thanks!

[griffman]

There is no free software that I'm aware of that will undelete files on OS X. As discussed in this thread, it's a complex task, and not something that's likely to have been addressed by the freeware market.
Note that this doesn't mean such software doesn't exist -- but I personally haven't ever run across anything in that category.
-rob.

[LeeMac]

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This product does actually seem to work, VirtualLab Mac , however they have not released an Intel version yet, anyone know if they are working on one?

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Actually, Marco, whether or not support for Intel Macs exists is a bit unclear. The main page www.binarybiz.com/vlab/mac.html states "VirtualLab supports both OS 9 and OS X and now includes support for Intel Based Macs, too!" but the system requirements page www.binarybiz.com/vlab/mac.html states "Intel Based Macs are not yet supported", so you might want to drop them a short note to clarify. Perhaps the system requirements page has not yet been updated.

[LeeMac]

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Hi!
I accidently deleted a very important folder on my sis' ibook. Is there anyway I can recover it after the trash bin has been emptied? I do not have enough money to pay for software like VirtualLab, DataRescue II or OfficeSalvage. I know it's a silly question, but is there any free software out there that can undelete files on Mac effectively? Please help I'm desperate /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif thanks!

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zionreigns1, VirtualLab may still be an option if what you need to recover is 1MB or less. You can get a free 1MB quota at www.freequota.com

[zionreigns1]

The folder i accidently deleted is pretty big and i think is a few hundred MB. But thanks for all the help Griffman and Leemac, I really appreciate it /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif My sis hasn't spoken to me since the incident but i guess it's a lesson learnt. Always double check before emptying the trash bin. Cheers!