The Mac Mini - winner or loser?
Posted 11 January 2005 - 10:20 PM
* reasonable RAM.
Yes, I know I could do it through Apple Store but I am keen to find out what other people's vision is.
A bit of a shame it's not G5...
Also where's the iMac G5 upgrade (with bluetooth keyboard and mouse and extra RAM - at base price rather than $$$ extras)?
Posted 11 January 2005 - 11:47 PM
Also any debate regarding extra things missing:
that is exactly the point! I have extra mice, monitor etc. and other people also already have these things, if I went out to buy this Mac I could start it up immediately (well after installed extra RAM /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)
3rd party developers will have solutions to any missing details (as in the past)
Very cool to bring along and you can buy it with a TV connector so...
Posted 12 January 2005 - 05:13 AM
I think function followed form on this one. Apple was so keen on making the mini MAC mini they neglected to add a second RAM slot. So you're left with 3 configs.
1. 256k (not enough, cripples the performance. iLife's MIN. requirement is 256K.)
2. 512k (O.K. but still a little weak for future software releases)
3. 1 GB (Great but way too expensive for 1 slot. Not a value anymore)
I still can't believe they tried to sell this machine with only 256K installed. Many people won't know any better, and won't install more RAM. They'll get a pokey machine and will have a terrible first impression of Apple.
Posted 12 January 2005 - 07:01 AM
The only downside is RAM availability. The base model should come with 512megs, and it should go up from there. As has been observed by many others, 256megs is not enough for OSX.
Maybe the resale value of used Macs will come down as a result of this product release.
Posted 12 January 2005 - 07:14 AM
Downsides: no user-installable RAM, and Apple wants $425 to go to a gig! Yikes! No expandability.
Yeah, you'll definitely have to order a MiniMac from a reseller to get any decent RAM at a reasonable price.
For $500, this computer will appeal to all those ppl who only want to spent $500 and end up with a pokey PC, and those ppl who upgrade the $500 PC to usable levels and end up around $1000 anyway.
Its a good computer. If you needed to buy a whole system, and you don't go through Apple, you can get a decent CRT, keyboard and mouse elsewhere and be happy for around $700-800. Of course, you could get an eMac too...
Posted 12 January 2005 - 07:35 AM
No kidding. Even my old Quadra 660av came with 8MB of RAM. That's 32 times as much! How could you possibly run OS X on so little?
Anyways and seriously, 256MB is pokey, too little, meager. Out of date, last year's hottie, not cool.
Althought I think the miniMac (sounds better than Mac Mini) is great and will attract WinPods like [censored] attracts flies, I do believe 512MB would have put that little extra kick in their smack and gotten them addicted in one hit. As it is, "it's cool if a bit slow like I always thought Macs were"...
Posted 12 January 2005 - 07:46 AM
499 mac mini
599 mac mini
if you can't find something that fits your needs i have a feeling you're asking for too much.
Posted 12 January 2005 - 08:00 AM
I say they should go the Dell route, though. Put 256 in by default, but include a discount on the 512 MB upgrade to encourage people to make that upgrade.
Posted 12 January 2005 - 09:30 AM
Posted 12 January 2005 - 09:47 AM
They do have a discount for the 512MB upgrade, I think its like 75ish bucks, which isnt actually that bad for a 512 stick of ram
I think the main thing here is that the RAM is not user upgradeable. In the next couple of weeks, we should begin to hear whether or not it's difficult to actually do the RAM swap.
Posted 12 January 2005 - 11:25 AM
The news was that the Apple site was so deluged with people looking to order the Mini that the site went down for some people. - Winner!
Apple had to shut down the STORE, but the main site stayed up.
On the other hand, the MacWorld Expo site (running on Windows 2003) died /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif