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Posted 06 May 2002 - 09:31 PM

Ohaio gosaimasse,

I was just reading the "A look inside Jaguar" announcement from Apple and could not resist this thread.


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Ink
Jaguar features advanced handwriting recognition. Graphics professionals will appreciate the ability to put text via stylus instead of switching to the keyboard. You can write directly in Mail messages and TextEdit documents, or use the InkPad to write text and draw sketches before sending them to your favorite applications. Ink requires an input tablet.

Do you think this is the first step to a new/ other version of the beloved NEWTON?
From my point of view this application just makes no sense without a possible new PDA device.
Or are there so many Apple users using an "input tablet"?

I would be really interested in your thoughts...

Mata, ne!

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Posted 07 May 2002 - 12:45 AM

But... what wrong with typing!? images/icons/confused.gif images/icons/tongue.gif
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Posted 07 May 2002 - 05:56 AM

I'd be excited about this, but I don't have a graphics tablet.

It's cool, but not very useful for me.

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Posted 07 May 2002 - 03:08 PM

kid_a - right on the money. I hate writing - I can type far faster than I can write or print, and it's legible. So what is the advantage of INK - almost seems a step backwards, if you ask me.

Oh and "writing directly to email" - give me a break! One of the worst "advances" of recent years is the ability to put stupid, cutesy cursive fonts, fancy backgrounds, and silly images, in email. I literally delete many emails because they are so "fancified" in html "fluff" that they are so annoying to read that I won't bother with them. Now any idiot can scribble away to their hearts content and send it out?

/grizzly old man/ This is not progress/end - grizzly old man/

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Posted 07 May 2002 - 03:34 PM

I don't think it was meant to be an amazing new feature...just a little addition..and if somebody needs it, GREAT. I won't use it, but hey..

Also, they might as well add it. They spent enough money on the Newton and the handwriting recog. technology that they might as well have implemented it.

Guys- I think you're logic i backwards. Apple is using existing technology from the past in a new product. That doesn't suggest they're making a new handheld that uses the same older technology. They're just implementing what they have.

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Posted 07 May 2002 - 05:27 PM

But who really needs a feature like this in OS? Like drmbb said, the usual computer user is faster by typing than writing, and to use this free-added application you have to buy another input device.
Ljuba1701, do you really think that they had a kind of spring cleaning and found the old Newton Software? And instead of just dumping it they add it to the OS?
Without another "input device" created and made by Apple it makes no real sense to me to just blow up the system.

Just my 2 Yen...

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Posted 07 May 2002 - 05:53 PM

is a great idea, maybe apple is preparing for the long waited computer tablet,, bill gates has annonce it but there still no reall consumer products in the market, apple will be the leader in this niche.

Good for apple

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Posted 07 May 2002 - 07:43 PM

I think I agree with all of you, but how many people use voice recognition...I remeber when the first AV macs came out that had it...It was soooo cool to say "Victoria, open macintosh HD....Victoria, Open Macintosh HD" etc. not a very useful feature, but it exists, and people like it, whatever...Might be kinda cool to work in photoshop and just draw in my titles (and have them become type)...It does seem silly though.

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Posted 08 May 2002 - 10:43 AM

I see three possible uses/advanatages to this technology:

1. There are still folks out there who cannot type
2. It is a lot easier to write on a tablet in your hands than a keyboard (try typing standing up without a pedestal)
3. If you are really a gifted artist, I'm sure seamlessly combining writing and drawing (are there any software developers out there?) would be quite cool.

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Posted 08 May 2002 - 12:46 PM

Even though I had a Palm of my own for a year, the Navy gave me a iPaq 3760 for govt use. The main feature I love about it is the handwriting recognition(sp) software. I have quit toting a notepad around to scribble notes.

Now, it sounds like to me that they (Apple) is setting Inkwell up as a basis for a PDA with the advanced features of the iPaq that would talk seamlessly with their OS. By having it in the OS, the developers will be able to code for it rather than each pick a different way to talk to the system.

Make sense?

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Posted 08 May 2002 - 02:34 PM

I've been waiting for the Newton handwriting recognition to resurface. My wife is in the medical field and takes copious notes, all of which must transcribed at some point into e-documentation.

There is no good way to type notes while interviewing and examining patients. Online forms are sequenced, the discover of information in a clinical setting is not. Other factors make direct entry of information into an electronic format difficult.

Some clinic have experimented with handhelds in hospital settings for entry of routine repeating care regimes that lends itself to electronic formats.

What will sell big in clinical settings is a tablet PC with handwriting recognition. So the clinician can entry data, flip between data sets, all using a stylus, no mousing, keystokes, menus etc. All inputs via a single familar device.

We're already anticpating Ink.

Handwriting recognition is another niche for Apple to expand into.

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