[ice_cold_irony]

Hey i just thought of something...since these will be flash based drives in these with speeds comparable to RAM is this why they can save so much space etc and load OSX and programs onto the phone? Just a need for a small processor and no HDD or RAM..essentially combined the 2? I'm not too knowledgeable on how the actual hardware to work but is that a fair assumption? Please don't blast me too hard if I'm just dumb.

[Ronaldinho]

Adobephile, I think you missed the fact that the checklist was tongue-in-cheek.
I like the phone. Obviously, it's not for everyone ... but it looks head-and-shoulders better than the most comprable devices on the market: Treos and Blackberrys. By those standards, it's not even particularly expensive.
Cingular-only doesn't surprise me. I'd love it if they went with Verizon, but Verizon has a strict policy about locking features on their phones unless you pay extra for them. They get away with this because they have the best network, but if they changed for Apple, and other phone-makers demanded the same treatment, their whole business model would fall apart.
But this looks like a HUGE improvement over the Treos and Blackberrys of the world. It's enough to make me consider making the switch from a standard clamshell phone. My contract runs out in May, which is just about right, so I've got plenty of time to decide.

[pixelcruncher]

I will be amazed if someone can actually watch a two hour movie on the iPhone on battery power. It's a cool product, but all those features and that screen seem like they're going to require a lot of juice. We shall see.

[kevis]

Steve Jobs will be doing a live interview on CNBC sometime between now and 3:00PM CST. The keynote and Apple has been taking up over 50% of their coverage today.

[minderbinder]

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appleTV - WHY buy an AppleTV for $300 when I can go and get a Xbox 360 for the same price that does the exact same stuff? And it plays games...

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You can get an Xbox 360 with a hard drive and high speed wireless for $299? Where?

[minderbinder]

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Nothing on macs? I miss the days when Apple was a company manufacturing tools for creative people, instead of being a toy shop. OK, times change and our macs still work. Next time then.

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Yeah, 'cause one product announcement that doesn't talk about their computers means they're no longer making them. So where's the eye-rolling smiley?

[bones21]

10.5 news ???

I'm all excited about 10.5 and I get nothing....

Why Apple, why !!!

Also, AppleTV without a DVD player or actual "TV" integration, WTF /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[solipsism]

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Airport extreme has been upgraded to support 802.11n Looks like the ?tv. Airport extreme

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The Airport Extreme is the exact footprint of the Mac Mini (6.5" x 6.5"), but the AppleTV is larger (7.1" x 7.1"). Not that you'd have these next to each other, but it seems odd for Apple to have similar but different sizes on these peripherals.
Cons:
Both the AppleTV and Airport Extreme have 10/100, no gigabit ethernet. What gives?! For $299 and $179, respectively, I'd expect 1000 BASE-T.
Pros:
Airport Extreme has a built in print server via USB 2.0. That is new, right?

[Schneb]

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i think he was probably referring more to the fact that they invented the mouse itself... /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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If they were touting that, then they should have put the 1984 mouse there rather than the ill-designed Mighty Mouse. No, since they did not invent the mouse, they are looking at themselves as innovating the clicking process, which is horribly flawed.

[kevis]

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But the Macworld Expo is supposed to be the highest profile Mac event for the general public. So Apple should be using this event to talk more about Mac hardware and Mac software.

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Yeah, if it was simply for us Macophiles. If the event were mainly about the Mac and it's software the general public would hear or know little about it. News is generally minimal when this happens and the public is left in the dark. Since todays keynote, the TV news has been thick with coverage of Apple's new products. The public is being informed and that's where the 'Halo" effect works best.

[solipsism]

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Nothing on macs? I miss the days when Apple was a company manufacturing tools for creative people, instead of being a toy shop. OK, times change and our macs still work. Next time then.

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Yeah, 'cause one product announcement that doesn't talk about their computers means they're no longer making them. So where's the eye-rolling smiley?

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I hope people don't actually think Apple isn't focusing on Macs anymore. All the devices announced today compliment the Mac. These new items are increasing the halo effect. The Mac marketshare will be grow phenomenally this year.

[nelson92]

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I am buying one for sure.
June is a long wait.

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Not as long a Q4 for us UK folk. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[minderbinder]

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i think he was probably referring more to the fact that they invented the mouse itself...

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Right except they didn't really invent the mouse. They can be credited with seeing it's potential and bringing it to the masses, but not it's invention, unless you consider removing buttons from the original design "inventive".

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Which is why they said in their presentation that they brought it to the masses, not that they invented it.

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Which is why they said in their presentation that they brought it to the masses, not that they invented it.

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