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Though the HP LP2465’s connection options aren’t quite as plentiful as some monitors we’ve seen recently, and we’ve seen brighter and more vivid LCDs, it is a good choice if you’re looking for a large, affordable wide-screen LCD. more

[tmedia1]

I've been working with a Dell 30" LCD monitor on my Mac for about a month now and it is awesome. It has the exact same specs as the 30" Cinema Display but sells for about $1200 or about $700 less than the Apple version. Plus it has height adjustment! The premium that Apple charges for its monitors has always been excessive.... Come on Apple....

[W_Loring]

Actually, the display has a four-port USB hub. There are two ports on the left side of the display, and two on the back, next to the DVI ports and the inbound USB port. It should also be mentioned that all cables can be routed through the neck of the display, which helps to reduce cable clutter.

[RhymingDesigner]

I've been using the HP 2335 (23") display for over a year. As a graphic designer, I was hesitant to make the leap to flat panel for fear of losing the brightness and sharpness of my old CRT.
Now I wouldn't want to be without it. The brightness, viewing angle, sharpness, adjustability, and overall display quality are excellent. On top of that, HP offers an excellent 3-year warranty; Apple's 1-year looks pretty sad by comparison.
I'm not sure how the LP2465 stacks up against the 2335, but if I were in the market for another display, I would give it serious consideration.

[jughead]

Just got some L2045W (20" widescreen) HP monitors in the office. They are dirt cheap at $320. DVI cable is extra. Speaker bar is extra. This one only has a 2 port USB hub. It height adjusts and pivots.
Nice for general work.

[Fixx]

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weve seen brighter and more vivid LCDs

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I think MacWorlders should pay more attention to color accuracy. Now it sounds like a few passersby have eyeballed this and judged it looks nice. As long as the review does not say how easy a display is to calibrate and profile customers keep buying Cinemas as we at least know they are accurate and react well to calibrating devices.

[jbh001]

Several other sites mention that this monitor has a documented problem with dropping frames (stuttering). No mention of that in this review. Has HP now resolved this issue, or was it overlooked in this review?

[smashingnick]

We have dozens of these at my work and I can't get one of them to work with my Macbook core duo. the highest resolution I can get it to display is 1360x768. It is supposed to be able to do 1920x1200 but when I set it to that it doesn't display anything.

[Jim Galbraith]

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We have dozens of these at my work and I can't get one of them to work with my Macbook core duo. the highest resolution I can get it to display is 1360x768. It is supposed to be able to do 1920x1200 but when I set it to that it doesn't display anything.

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it worked for me. i just tried it with a white 2GHz Core 2 Duo MacBook using a mini-DVI to DVI adapter.
JG

[smashingnick]

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We have dozens of these at my work and I can't get one of them to work with my Macbook core duo. the highest resolution I can get it to display is 1360x768. It is supposed to be able to do 1920x1200 but when I set it to that it doesn't display anything.

it worked for me. i just tried it with a white 2GHz Core 2 Duo MacBook using a mini-DVI to DVI adapter.
JG

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Nevermind I fixed it... turned out it was a bad DVI cable. I didn't think that could be the problem because it still worked at 1360x768 but turned out it was... Working at 1920x1200 now whoooo!

[Curlie]

I bought an HP LP2465 and got it today. The software disk that came with it has only PC files for software and drivers. The outfit I bought it from said "Universal" platform but obviously that's not true. Any suggestions for how to use this monitor with a PowerPC?

[jbrbx]

I also bought the 'LP 2465,' based on the Review in MacWorld, although it turned out to be Inadequate. I sent a Question to the Reviewer about how the Monitor looked with Grayscale images. That was about 10 Days ago, and there has been No Reply. I was also interested to know If this Monitor would also work with 'OS 9.2.2.' I spoke with MacMall (2 Different opinions), and Hewlett Packard (3 Different opinions). I once again made an enquiry with MacMall and was told, by someone who appeared to take some time to find out, that the 'LP 2465' would work at 3 different resolutions (in 9.2.2) including the 'Native' 1920 x 1200 if my Video Card supported it. Well, it does "work," but Not like it does in 'OS X.' It gets Distorted (Stretched) in '9.2.2.' I've got a late 'G4' (1.25 GHz single) as it will Boot in '9.2.2' and the Video Card does support 1920 x 1200. So, I bought the 'LP 2465' from MacMall, in part, because it has a 'Contrast Control, which is Scarce on LCDs.' The more expensive 'Apple Cinema Displays' do Not have this feature and 'Grayscale' images are really Washed-Out on them. The 'Contrast' on them is too Stark for the kind of work that I do, so Why are these 'Graphics' people raving about the 'ACDs?" Maybe they Only work in Color? The 'Pivot' feature was also an Asset, although it Doesn't work on a 'Mac,' which was Not mentioned in the 'Review.' What's the Point of a Partial 'Review?' In that respect, MacWorld has become like 'Consumer Reports,' which used to go into Detail in its Reviews. Now you just get 'Circles,' which are supposed to mean something. They are almost Useless. (MacWorld gives one 'Mice,' which are No Better.) There was supposed to be a '$50.00 Mail-In Rebate' on the Display and a '$40.00 Rebate' on the 'U.P.S. Shipping Charges.' Neither of those 'Forms' were included with the 'LP 2465,' nor have they been E-Mailed to me, as yet, although MacMall has been Paid by my Bank for the Monitor. Somethings else, which is Extremely Irritating: Too Many of the 'Customer & Tech Support Services' (Adobe, Earthlink, Hewlett Packard, Quark, Seagate and many more!) have been sent 'Offshore,' to India, the Philippines, and China (H-P is in China, Costa Rica and India). Unfortunately, I often have a Problem in Understanding their 'English,' especially from the folks in India. In addition, Too Many of them are Inadequately Trained and are Ignorant of some of the things that you're asking about. What's the Point? Fortunately, 'Apple' is still in the U.S. & Canada.
Once I opened the Box, I was Shocked to find that there was No 'Instruction Manual.' There is Only a folder in a few different languages, with some Photos and Illustrations that's Brief Textwise and Inadequate. I'm a bit of a Dummy when it comes to Computers and had a hard time trying to figure out How to Connect the Display to my CPU. I called MacMall and was Unable to get any Help there. They 'Sell' these Monitors for 'Macintosh' but Nobody there seems to know Anything about them! I then called Hewlett Packard (their Tech Support for Monitors is in China) and got a even bigger Shock: they Don't know Anything about setting this Display up with a Macintosh and Don't support Anything but 'H-P Products!' So, one Can't get Information from MacMall, from Macworld, or from H-P! So Why is this Display being Sold for the Mac? There is No mention of the 'Mac' in the 'Specs' on the H-P WebSite. There are No 'Drivers' for the 'Mac' there, either. Now, one can download a 'PDF' of the (54-Page) 'Instruction Manual' from 'H-P,' but Without the Monitor being 'Set-Up,' there is No way to Read it. I finally figured that out, but the 'Software & Documentation CD' says Nothing about using this Monitor with a 'Mac.' All of the Software is for 'Windows.' I Can't open Most of the items on the Disc and it looks as if the 'Pivot Pro' Software' is Only for 'Windows.' This Shortcoming was Not mentioned in the 'Review' in MacWorld! One can Manually 'Rotate' the Screen 90, but that would also require that one Rotate the 'Image' which is probably Not possible in all situations. In 'Photoshop,' it's Easy, but otherwise it would appear Not to Function at all, with something like a 'WebPage' or a 'Word Document' (both are shown as Examples in the 'Pivot Pro Overview pdf' and I Can't seem to Install that Program! Another Shortcoming: one Cannot use the 'Buttons' in the 'On Screen Display,' as one has to Install the 'Software,' which is Only for 'Windows.' One can Only use the Buttons on the bottom of the 'Bezel' to make Adjustments. I do have to say that the 'Grayscale,' so far, has been what I hoped for, because I turned the 'Brightness' Down to '0' and the 'Contrast' to '40.' I will probably have to do some further Tweeking. I had been using an 'NEC FP2141sb' (CRT) for the past three years. The 'Grayscale' was Very Good and the Gradations were Subtle. I was Lusting by the larger 'Real Estate' on the 'LP 2465,' but as my father used to say: "Your Eyes are Too Big for Your Stomach!" One other point: No Dealer in N.Y.C. carries any of the '65 Series' from H-P, so one Can't check it out. You have to Buy it Blind! Most of the Retailers Except for the 'Apple' Dealers tend to stock the Less Expensive 'Displays' ($500.00 or Less), most of which have these 'Glossy Screens' which, for me is a Distraction, and can be a Problem. Regrettably, the 'ACDs' Don't have a Contrast Control.' (I think that there are some 'Samsungs' and maybe some 'NECs' and, for sure, other H-Ps that have that Feature.) In the near future, the 'CRT' is going to Vanish (I Don't think I've seen one 'On Display' in N.Y.C. for over a year!), so maybe I'll hold on to my 'NEC FP2141sb,' as I may have a Need for it.

[jbrbx]

I've found another Nasty aspect of the 'HP LP2465:' The 'Reviewer' said that the Screen could be Rotated '90,' which is true. However, in 'Photoshop,' it's probably Useless! I tried to do some work on a Vertical Page in 'Photoshop' (v.8). I Rotated the image 90 on the Screen and Rotated the 'Screen' to the 'Portrait Mode' so that the Page would be be Vertical again and I would have the whole 'Portrait' space to work on it. Unfortunately, the 'Menu Bar' and the 'Tool Pallette' do Not turn with the Image (Page). They stay where they Originally were, so the 'Menu' is On the Right-Hand side of the Screen and reads Sideways and the 'Tools' are at the Top but they are facing the same way that they did before. Even worse, I was Unable to Control the 'Mouse' in the 'Menu Bar' and could Not use the 'Drop-down Menus!' It was also very Difficult to Select a 'Tool' to work with and I gave up. In other words, the Ability to 'Rotate' the Screen '90' (clockwise only) is Useless in 'Photoshop!' You Can't Work on the Image! That was Not mentioned in the 'Review.' This Display has some Advantages, but they are Optimized for 'Windows' Only. Since the 'Mac' is used by a lot of Graphics people, why is this Inadequate 'Monitor' being Recommended in 'MacWorld?' Maybe somebody will come up with a downloadable Program that will make the 'Pivoting' (Rotating) Work on a 'Mac,' although I Doubt it. While I have Limited experience with this Display, it appears to me that this is Not something that should be Touted so Highly by MacWorld. It does have some 'Pros,' but there are too many 'Cons' for it to be Recommended for people who do a lot of Graphics work.

[c2d2]

Wondering if there's a Macworld response to the numerous complaints about Macworld's review of this display. ??

Maybe the monitor's faults described in purchasers' comments only appeared in isolated, rare cases?

Really am most wondering if the 2475 addresses these faults, or whether it is a good upgrade of the previous model these commenters are complaining about. ??