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MacOS X isn't a bad operating system. Even Mac hardware isn't. It is some of the most beautifully designed Hardware out there.
Mac just looks good & doesn't provides anything good over Windows other then not many virus out there. Any OEM computer comes with some sort of security suite whether it is Norton or Mcafee or Kaspersky, but at least it comes with one & most of the time that does the job just fine.
Microsoft also releases periodically patches for the Operating systems & a fully patched system is better protected then Mac or Linux is out of the box.
These 2 things take out the biggest weak point in Windows, security.
2nd comes the VFM. Well, those who bought XP Pro 6 years ago are still using it & it still rox. If $300 for an OS which you will run for everyday in the next 6 years is too much to ask (Well, actually it is) then $130 for an OS which you will use for one year only is also too much to ask.
You cannot upgrade your Mac, & no any normal PCI card or PCIe Graphics card won't work in Mac Pro too. If you call upgrading RAM as upgrading the computer then you should take a lesson in computing. Macs are hardly any VFM.
Now come to Macbooks, they are highly outdated & over prices. A Macbook comes with 64 MB GMA 950 when Intel themselves provides support for upto 224 MB shared RAM with GMA 950. Why isn't apple using it to the Max?
Second thing, heat issues. It is indeed correct that Macbook Pro is very thin, just 1 inch thick. But that creates more problem than it solves such as overheating issue.
Lets come to the bundles application & UI. Mac UI is cluttered, you end up with so many Windows open on screen when u only need one or 2, ever heard about keeping your desk clean Mac users? I used expose in Mac & thanks god MS didn't provided it in Vista. Expose is needed in Mac due to very bad window switching via keyboard. You need to press commandtab to switch between different applications & then command` to switch between different Windows of same applications.
I just mentioned how much the dock sux cos it provides no info about "How many IM Windows of Yahoo Messenger do i have open?". Expose is vital for the UI of Mac, & is not required for Windows where we have a unified window switching method. Alttab also known as FlipTab.
If you don't have iLife, then you don't have a good out of the box experience. Macs don't even come with a good Photo Management application inbuilt. Preview is nothing & iPhoto also isn't any good if you want to manage things your way.
Here are the major flaws:
1) No option to cut and paste files between drives. (The most major flaw, IMHO)
2) Non-Standard & weird keyboard navigation. Requires modifier keys for simple thing which have dedicated Keys on Keyboard such as delete or insert or print screen.
3) No option to customize the default looks of the OS in the OS itself other then changing some fonts only & a selection of gray or aqua buttons.
4) Finder doesn't provide icon spacing, address bar or tabbed navigation such as Path Finder or Windows Explorer breadcrumb bar. You cannot drag a file & go up one level while the file still staying in drag.
5) iTunes has no support to play any music format other then mp3 & mp4. You will need to convert all your songs if they are in other format, if you want them to play in iTunes. This despite of having a solid QuickTime backend. Power DVD or FFDSHow or Orban play MP4 & M4A in WMP fine cos they are all direct show based. But despite of QuickTime based iTunes doesn't play any music format including wma other then mp3 & aac.
6) Dock doesn't group different Windows.
7) There is no way to find how many windows a single application has opened. Such as if Yahoo Messenger is on & there are 3 windows then dock will not show that there are three windows open. You will need to use either expose or command`.
No Out of the box Photo Management application. iPhoto required you to buy iLife, & still lacks in many ways such as lack of tree based navigation. You have to rely on it the way it wants to. There are not many customization options in iPhoto.
9) Windows do not maximize, limiting the zooming capabilities of Safari or Finder. You end up with many Windows on your screen, which you don't even require.
10) Close apps does not means exiting them. You need to press Command+Q to exit an application.
11) You cannot resize Windows from any side. Just the south east corner.
12) Lack of 3rd party applications. There are applications but they all do almost the same thing. They just look good without providing anything new in most cases.
13) No Unified Uninstaller to uninstall an application & remove all the preference & helper files it has. (Like in Windows' "Add/Remove PRograms")
14) iMovie is not included with Mac OS. If you want to run it on old version of Mac OS X you will need to buy iLife.
15) QuickTime requires you to buy the Pro version to play videos full screen. Mac OS X won';t play full screen videos out of the box & neither VCDs. VLC Player is a must.
16) No option to "Create a new file" in Finder by default.
17) It asks you to enter password just for simple installation like installing DivX Codec or install an iContainer in Candybar.
18) This can be attributed to the pathetic keyboard based nevigation in Mac OS. In Windows or Linux, by just pressing the Tab button, I can cycle between the controls & boxes or check boxes in an application. You know, more like that tab button acts as "Next form" button in those OS.
In Mac OS it is nothing like that, seriously this is a very simple thing. Who uses a mouse always anyway?
19) Page zoom in Firefox & Safari both is bad. It just zooms or increses the text size, i seriously miss the Page zoom of IE 7 which is best.
Now some really good features worth mentioning in Mac OS X
1) System wide spell check. It is available everywhere even Yahoo Messenger or TextEdit
2) iSync which automatically syncs with your mobile phone & copies the contact to Mac Address book. Then it is available anywhere.
3) Bluetooth for phone - Out of the box, in Windows Vista you can only send or recieve files from the phone to computer or vice versa. However in Mac you can nevigate the phone file system using bluetooth.
Out of the box, Windows Vista doesn't comes with spell check. You can install 3rd party application such as SpellMagic though but it is not in Windows by default.
The Windows Mobility centre acts as a central hub for all your mobile phone needs but the problem is it only works with Windows Mobile phones. So, it is next to useless cos Windows Mobile Phones cost a lot & are generally PDAs. For Sony Ericsson phones you can use Float Mobile Agent or My Phone Exploer, both are free.
If something is not there in Windows, chances are there is an alternative available for free. Unlike safari, which requires you to buy Saft for $!2 just for configuring it.
Review of Mac OS X
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Posted 30 May 2007 - 08:27 AM
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MacOS X isn't a bad operating system. Even Mac hardware isn't. It is some of the most beautifully designed Hardware out there.
I should hope Mac hardware isn't a bad operating system. It's hardware. MacOS X isn't a bad operating system. Even Mac hardware isn't. It is some of the most beautifully designed Hardware out there.
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Mac just looks good & doesn't provides anything good over Windows other then not many virus out there. Any OEM computer comes with some sort of security suite whether it is Norton or Mcafee or Kaspersky, but at least it comes with one & most of the time that does the job just fine.
Tell that to the millions upon millions of infected Windows computers out there. Mac just looks good & doesn't provides anything good over Windows other then not many virus out there. Any OEM computer comes with some sort of security suite whether it is Norton or Mcafee or Kaspersky, but at least it comes with one & most of the time that does the job just fine.
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Microsoft also releases periodically patches for the Operating systems & a fully patched system is better protected then Mac or Linux is out of the box.
One, this is a load of bunk and if you're going to compare a fully patched system with anything, it should be against another fully patched system. OS X and Linux both have built in auto update mechanisms. Microsoft also releases periodically patches for the Operating systems & a fully patched system is better protected then Mac or Linux is out of the box.
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These 2 things take out the biggest weak point in Windows, security.
No, they don't. These 2 things take out the biggest weak point in Windows, security.
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2nd comes the VFM. Well, those who bought XP Pro 6 years ago are still using it & it still rox. If $300 for an OS which you will run for everyday in the next 6 years is too much to ask (Well, actually it is) then $130 for an OS which you will use for one year only is also too much to ask.
VFM? Value For Money? Define acronyms before using them my middle school English teacher used to say. Anyhoo, I can tell you're trolling because you say "XP rox". Second, check your stats. One, shopping around, you can get OS X for $100 at time of release. Two, you aren't getting any new features with XP during that period. Three, Tiger has been around for over two years and we still have until October before the next version debuts. So much for that myth. 2nd comes the VFM. Well, those who bought XP Pro 6 years ago are still using it & it still rox. If $300 for an OS which you will run for everyday in the next 6 years is too much to ask (Well, actually it is) then $130 for an OS which you will use for one year only is also too much to ask.
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You cannot upgrade your Mac, & no any normal PCI card or PCIe Graphics card won't work in Mac Pro too. If you call upgrading RAM as upgrading the computer then you should take a lesson in computing. Macs are hardly any VFM.
It's true that you need to use specific graphics cards for OS X. There's nothing barring graphics card manufacturers from bringing more products to the platform. However, you're completely ignoring the capability to upgrade the hard drives and CPUs in the Mac Pro. As for not including RAM as an upgrade, it really is a valid upgrade, you're just precluding it because it doesn't help your argument. You cannot upgrade your Mac, & no any normal PCI card or PCIe Graphics card won't work in Mac Pro too. If you call upgrading RAM as upgrading the computer then you should take a lesson in computing. Macs are hardly any VFM.
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Now come to Macbooks, they are highly outdated & over prices. A Macbook comes with 64 MB GMA 950 when Intel themselves provides support for upto 224 MB shared RAM with GMA 950. Why isn't apple using it to the Max?
Few people are fans of the GMA 950 in the MacBooks. However, the rest of the parts are quite solid and allowing the card to use more system RAM isn't going to help performance. 64 MB standalone cards far outperform it and more RAM isn't going to change that. As for the MacBook being a value, I think far more tech evangelists laud it as a value than you realize. Now come to Macbooks, they are highly outdated & over prices. A Macbook comes with 64 MB GMA 950 when Intel themselves provides support for upto 224 MB shared RAM with GMA 950. Why isn't apple using it to the Max?
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Second thing, heat issues. It is indeed correct that Macbook Pro is very thin, just 1 inch thick. But that creates more problem than it solves such as overheating issue (which one member founds to be good. Dude, ever heard of overheating killing your hardware. Why else do u think they use high speed fan in CPU )
You don't have an argument based on any actual reality. This hardware is engineered for proper operation. Arguing that thin = too much heat = failure is naive. Second thing, heat issues. It is indeed correct that Macbook Pro is very thin, just 1 inch thick. But that creates more problem than it solves such as overheating issue (which one member founds to be good. Dude, ever heard of overheating killing your hardware. Why else do u think they use high speed fan in CPU )
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Lets come to the bundles application & UI. Mac UI is cluttered, you end up with so many Windows open on screen when u only need one or 2, ever heard about keeping your desk clean Mac users?
Like the rest of your arguments, this lacks substance, or in this case, a concrete example. Lets come to the bundles application & UI. Mac UI is cluttered, you end up with so many Windows open on screen when u only need one or 2, ever heard about keeping your desk clean Mac users?
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I used expose in Mac & thanks god MS didn't provided it in Vista.
They didn't? I used expose in Mac & thanks god MS didn't provided it in Vista.
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Expose is needed in Mac due to very bad window switching via keyboard. You need to press commandtab to switch between different applications & then command` to switch between different Windows of same applications.
It's a different paradigm. Just because it's not Windows, it doesn't mean it's wrong. Frequently (more often than not), the Mac way is faster. I'll explain it to you like a five year old if need be. Expose is needed in Mac due to very bad window switching via keyboard. You need to press commandtab to switch between different applications & then command` to switch between different Windows of same applications.
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I just mentioned how much the dock sux cos it provides no info about "How many IM Windows of Yahoo Messenger do i have open?". Expose is vital for the UI of Mac, & is not required for Windows where we have a unified window switching method. Alt+tab also known as FlipTab.
Why do you care how many IM windows you have open? It doesn't help you chat better. As for "FlipTab", that's another useless fact I need to get rid of. I just mentioned how much the dock sux cos it provides no info about "How many IM Windows of Yahoo Messenger do i have open?". Expose is vital for the UI of Mac, & is not required for Windows where we have a unified window switching method. Alt+tab also known as FlipTab.
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If you don't have iLife, then you don't have a good out of the box experience. Macs don't even come with a good Photo Management application inbuilt. Preview is nothing & iPhoto also isn't any good if you want to manage things your way. Macboys in this forum started using MacOS X Tiger only, tell them to use Panther & Jaguar & then come back to say h
All Macs for years and years have included iLife so your argument is tantamount to saying "If you don't have a CPU, your out of box experience won't be good." It's never true, so it's not an argument. I feel dumber for having read that. As for your incomplete sentence, we're all probably better off not knowing what the rest of it was.If you don't have iLife, then you don't have a good out of the box experience. Macs don't even come with a good Photo Management application inbuilt. Preview is nothing & iPhoto also isn't any good if you want to manage things your way. Macboys in this forum started using MacOS X Tiger only, tell them to use Panther & Jaguar & then come back to say h
So, congratulations, you've successfully trolled me. I've wasted enough time with this and I'm sure others will relish pointing out the faults in the rest of your troll.
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Posted 30 May 2007 - 09:17 AM
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1) No Cut option.
1) No Cut option.
There is a cut option apple-x, but if you mean using the cut option with file commands you are right. Its not included there because of how it makes little sense. You dont cut files you move or copying them.
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2) Non-Standard & weird keyboard navigation. Requires modifier keys for simple thing which have dedicated Keys on Keyboard such as delete or insert or print screen.
2) Non-Standard & weird keyboard navigation. Requires modifier keys for simple thing which have dedicated Keys on Keyboard such as delete or insert or print screen.
Non-Standard to you being a windows user /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Ive had little need to modify the keys but I understand where your coming from.
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3) No option to customize the default looks of the OS in the OS itself other then changing some fonts only & a selection of gray or aqua buttons.
3) No option to customize the default looks of the OS in the OS itself other then changing some fonts only & a selection of gray or aqua buttons.
Windows has opened up its ability to theme the look and it has proved to be quite beneficial. Those that wish to do use on OSX can use Unsanitys Shape Shifter. This is a far cry from the flexability that you may be used to in the windows world. To bad, it would be a great option of Apple hadnt locked it down.
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4) Finder doesn’t provide icon spacing, address bar or tabbed navigation such as Path Finder or Windows Explorer breadcrumb bar. You cannot drag a file & go up one level while the file still staying in drag.
4) Finder doesn’t provide icon spacing, address bar or tabbed navigation such as Path Finder or Windows Explorer breadcrumb bar. You cannot drag a file & go up one level while the file still staying in drag.
Yeah you can, it includes spring loaded folders.
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5) iTunes has no support to play any music format other then mp3 & mp4. You will need to convert all your songs if they are in other format, if you want them to play in iTunes. This despite of having a solid QuickTime backend.
5) iTunes has no support to play any music format other then mp3 & mp4. You will need to convert all your songs if they are in other format, if you want them to play in iTunes. This despite of having a solid QuickTime backend.
Are there other formats /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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6) Dock doesn’t group different Windows.
6) Dock doesn’t group different Windows.
I particularly hate this feature in windows and Im happy to see that its not included in OSX. I want to see what I have open.
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7) There is no way to find how many windows a single application has opened. Such as if Yahoo Messenger is on & there are 3 windows then dock will not show that there are three windows open. You will need to use either expose or command`.
7) There is no way to find how many windows a single application has opened. Such as if Yahoo Messenger is on & there are 3 windows then dock will not show that there are three windows open. You will need to use either expose or command`.
Well that is why we have expose so there is a way. Im not being coy. Beside most applications have a windows menu where you can select any given window within the app.
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No Out of the box Photo Management application. iPhoto required you to buy iLife, & still lacks in many ways such as lack of tree based navigation. You have to rely on it the way it wants to. There are not many customization options in iPhoto.
No Out of the box Photo Management application. iPhoto required you to buy iLife, & still lacks in many ways such as lack of tree based navigation. You have to rely on it the way it wants to. There are not many customization options in iPhoto.
Umm, iPhoto is included (as with iLife) with every Mac. Im not sure why you dont have iLive.
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9) Windows do not maximize, limiting the zooming capabilities of Safari or Finder. You end up with many Windows on your screen, which you don’t even require.
9) Windows do not maximize, limiting the zooming capabilities of Safari or Finder. You end up with many Windows on your screen, which you don’t even require.
An old hold over to the classic Mac OS that made sure the right hand side where the drives sat were not over-lapped for ease of use.
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10) Close apps does not means exiting them. You need to press CommandQ to exit an application.
10) Close apps does not means exiting them. You need to press CommandQ to exit an application.
This is implemented but in-constantly. Im not sure which way is better, but some apps I think the calculator, or itunes closes when you close the window.
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11) You cannot resize Windows from any side. Just the south east corner.
11) You cannot resize Windows from any side. Just the south east corner.
Yeah this bugs me too, in windows you can resize off of any corner.
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12) Lack of 3rd party applications. There are applications but they all do almost the same thing. They just look good without providing anything new in most cases.
12) Lack of 3rd party applications. There are applications but they all do almost the same thing. They just look good without providing anything new in most cases.
What lack, so far I have been able to get write programs, devlop websites, edit images. Produce spreadsheets, and other office documents. Generalities are usually unfair and wrong.
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13) No Unified Uninstaller to uninstall an application & remove all the preference & helper files it has.
13) No Unified Uninstaller to uninstall an application & remove all the preference & helper files it has.
No need since OSX does not have the easily corruptible weak link called the registry. The uninstaller is used because everything is dumped into the registry. Most programs are uninstalled by dragging to the trash, a number of them (like MS office) include an uninstaller. Bottom line just because its missing doesnt mean its a detraction, and in this case that is true
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14) iMovie is not included with MacOS. If you want to run in on old version of Mac OS X you will need to buy iLife.
14) iMovie is not included with MacOS. If you want to run in on old version of Mac OS X you will need to buy iLife.
Again iLife is included in new macs so iMovie is there. New versions of iLife will need to be purchased but you should have the current version.
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15) QuickTime requires you to buy the Pro version to play videos full screen. Mac OS X won’t play full screen videos out of the box & neither VCDs. VLC Player is a must.
15) QuickTime requires you to buy the Pro version to play videos full screen. Mac OS X won’t play full screen videos out of the box & neither VCDs. VLC Player is a must.
Full screen? Do you mean w/o any controls because I can maximize the player but if you mean like the dvd player, I guess youre right. I never needed to play anything on quicktime full screen.
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16) No option to "Create a new file" in Finder by default.
16) No option to "Create a new file" in Finder by default.
You create a file with an application, how can you create a new file in windows? Even in windows a file is created within an application. If you mean folder then shift-apple-n will create a folder in the finder or just select new folder from the menu
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17) It asks you to enter password just for simple installation like installing DivX Codec or install an iContainer in Candybar.
17) It asks you to enter password just for simple installation like installing DivX Codec or install an iContainer in Candybar.
This is a great security feature because some apps need access to the library folder and you dont want any old application writing to that folder thus compromising security. Its a heck of lot better and seemless then Vistas allow/cancel dialog box that nags people to death for the simplest operations. XP has too many security holes and calling one a feature that you wish OSX has is a mistake. I dont want any old program to install w/o my authorization and by prompting me, Im am sure that Ill want that app installed.
All in all a number of negative features that you highlight are not, and as you continue to work with OSX you'll find that the features are there, just a little different then windows. There's also designed changes that are and should be different like your last point of being prompted for a password. Windows incurs too many viruses, adware/spyware. OSX has a much more beefier security setup but not implemented to impede a users day to day use of it, unlike Vista.
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Posted 30 May 2007 - 09:58 AM
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Any OEM computer comes with some sort of security suite whether it is Norton or Mcafee or Kaspersky, but at least it comes with one & most of the time that does the job just fine.
Any OEM computer comes with some sort of security suite whether it is Norton or Mcafee or Kaspersky, but at least it comes with one & most of the time that does the job just fine.
On a PC, security suites are not free. Either they are trialware, or they require a subscription. Why should a Mac user pay a virus tax on their computer when you can't list any viruses for the Mac that are loose in the wild?
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Microsoft also releases periodically patches for the Operating systems & a fully patched system is better protected then Mac or Linux is out of the box.
Microsoft also releases periodically patches for the Operating systems & a fully patched system is better protected then Mac or Linux is out of the box.
But just last night, Apple Software Update notified me of a QuickTime security patch and I downloaded and installed it without having to restart the computer. Therefore your statement is wrong.
And why is fair to compare a "fully patched" Windows to a Mac OS X "out of the box?" You either compare both when fully patched, or both when out of the box, not compare them in an unfair way.
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2nd comes the VFM. Well, those who bought XP Pro 6 years ago are still using it & it still rox.
2nd comes the VFM. Well, those who bought XP Pro 6 years ago are still using it & it still rox.
Yes, I love Mac VFM. I have a laptop almost 7 years old that can run Mac OS X 10,4. and it is still a viable backup to my current machine. How well can a 7-year-old PC laptop run Windows Vista?
I also kept my last Mac desktop for 7 years after changing RAM, hard drives, and expansion cards. Most people bought 2 or 3 PCs in that time. Now which way is cheaper?
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Now come to Macbooks, they are highly outdated & over prices.
Now come to Macbooks, they are highly outdated & over prices.
Yes, but no one cares. It is an extremely fast-selling computer. I know several people who bought MacBooks on my suggestion and the number of them who asked about technical specs was zero. They wanted to know if it could do what they wanted. Only basement geeks hate the MacBook.
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I just mentioned how much the dock sux cos it provides no info about "How many IM Windows of Yahoo Messenger do i have open?". Expose is vital for the UI of Mac, & is not required for Windows where we have a unified window switching method. Alttab also known as FlipTab.
I just mentioned how much the dock sux cos it provides no info about "How many IM Windows of Yahoo Messenger do i have open?". Expose is vital for the UI of Mac, & is not required for Windows where we have a unified window switching method. Alttab also known as FlipTab.
If you right-click on a dock icon, all the applications' windows are listed.
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If you don't have iLife, then you don't have a good out of the box experience. Macs don't even come with a good Photo Management application inbuilt. Preview is nothing & iPhoto also isn't any good if you want to manage things your way.
If you don't have iLife, then you don't have a good out of the box experience. Macs don't even come with a good Photo Management application inbuilt. Preview is nothing & iPhoto also isn't any good if you want to manage things your way.
Yeah, iPhoto still sucks. Agreed.
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1) No option to cut and paste files between drives. (The most major flaw, IMHO)
1) No option to cut and paste files between drives. (The most major flaw, IMHO)
That doesn't matter to me, but a lot of people agree with you.
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2) Non-Standard & weird keyboard navigation. Requires modifier keys for simple thing which have dedicated Keys on Keyboard such as delete or insert or print screen.
2) Non-Standard & weird keyboard navigation. Requires modifier keys for simple thing which have dedicated Keys on Keyboard such as delete or insert or print screen.
95% of keyboard shortcuts are the same as on Windows. Some are easier, such as entering international characters. My European friend things the Mac special character entry is much easier than remembering the Alt codes on Windows.
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5) iTunes has no support to play any music format other then mp3 & mp4.
5) iTunes has no support to play any music format other then mp3 & mp4.
It can plays CDs without converting them to MP3 or MP4. If you look at the actual specifications, iTunes plays a wide variety of audio formats. Definitely not just two.
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6) Dock doesn't group different Windows.
6) Dock doesn't group different Windows.
If you right-click on a dock icon, all the applications' windows are listed.
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7) There is no way to find how many windows a single application has opened.
7) There is no way to find how many windows a single application has opened.
If you right-click on a dock icon, all the applications' windows are listed.
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No Out of the box Photo Management application. iPhoto required you to buy iLife
No Out of the box Photo Management application. iPhoto required you to buy iLife
iPhoto is included with every Mac. The only way anyone could be running an OS X without iPhoto is by running a copy of Intel OS X illegally on a PC. iPhoto still sucks though.
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9) Windows do not maximize, limiting the zooming capabilities of Safari or Finder. You end up with many Windows on your screen, which you don't even require.
9) Windows do not maximize, limiting the zooming capabilities of Safari or Finder. You end up with many Windows on your screen, which you don't even require.
Window zooming is not the best use of space on today's very large monitors. That said, Apple has no consistency with the green button.
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10) Close apps does not means exiting them. You need to press CommandQ to exit an application.
10) Close apps does not means exiting them. You need to press CommandQ to exit an application.
If you really closed an app, it would exit. You are only closing document windows. Personally, I use Ctrl-Q to close apps in Windows as well, so to me Windows and Mac work the same here. You can close apps from the Command-Tab bar, which is a step up from Windows where I do not think you can close apps from the Alt-Tab bar. You can also close apps by right-clicking the Dock icons.
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11) You cannot resize Windows from any side. Just the south east corner.
11) You cannot resize Windows from any side. Just the south east corner.
Yes, this is often limiting. I noticed Adobe added any-side resizing to the CS3 palettes...more convenient.
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12) Lack of 3rd party applications. There are applications but they all do almost the same thing. They just look good without providing anything new in most cases.
12) Lack of 3rd party applications. There are applications but they all do almost the same thing. They just look good without providing anything new in most cases.
You need to try applications from Transmit, Rogue Amoeba and other innovative Mac developers. For one of my favorite Mac utilties, Default Folder, there is NO Windows Vista equivalent. There was in XP, but Vista removed the ability for that to run. Sometimes that is the case, where there is no Windows equivalent.
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13) No Unified Uninstaller to uninstall an application & remove all the preference & helper files it has. (Like in Windows' "Add/Remove PRograms")
13) No Unified Uninstaller to uninstall an application & remove all the preference & helper files it has. (Like in Windows' "Add/Remove PRograms")
Yes, this is annoying for those many applications that store files in the Application Support and other Library folders. Apple should help here.
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14) iMovie is not included with Mac OS. If you want to run it on old version of Mac OS X you will need to buy iLife.
14) iMovie is not included with Mac OS. If you want to run it on old version of Mac OS X you will need to buy iLife.
It comes with every Mac.
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15) QuickTime requires you to buy the Pro version to play videos full screen. Mac OS X won';t play full screen videos out of the box & neither VCDs. VLC Player is a must.
15) QuickTime requires you to buy the Pro version to play videos full screen. Mac OS X won';t play full screen videos out of the box & neither VCDs. VLC Player is a must.
I use NicePlayer. or VLC. Both are free.
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17) It asks you to enter password just for simple installation like installing DivX Codec or install an iContainer in Candybar.
17) It asks you to enter password just for simple installation like installing DivX Codec or install an iContainer in Candybar.
Well duh. This is one of the reasons you don't need a security suite on every Mac!!!
This is up to the developer. If they want to store files in a common area, they must get permission. Many applications stay out of common areas and do not need a password to install.
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18) This can be attributed to the pathetic keyboard based nevigation in Mac OS. In Windows or Linux, by just pressing the Tab button, I can cycle between the controls & boxes or check boxes in an application. You know, more like that tab button acts as "Next form" button in those OS.
18) This can be attributed to the pathetic keyboard based nevigation in Mac OS. In Windows or Linux, by just pressing the Tab button, I can cycle between the controls & boxes or check boxes in an application. You know, more like that tab button acts as "Next form" button in those OS.
You should turn on Full Keyboard Access sometime. I use the OS the way you are asking, every day.
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In Mac OS it is nothing like that, seriously this is a very simple thing. Who uses a mouse always anyway?
In Mac OS it is nothing like that, seriously this is a very simple thing. Who uses a mouse always anyway?
Answer: Everyone. (I love keyboard control, though.)
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19) Page zoom in Firefox & Safari both is bad. It just zooms or increses the text size, i seriously miss the Page zoom of IE 7 which is best.
19) Page zoom in Firefox & Safari both is bad. It just zooms or increses the text size, i seriously miss the Page zoom of IE 7 which is best.
Yes, there could be improvement here.
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2) iSync which automatically syncs with your mobile phone & copies the contact to Mac Address book. Then it is available anywhere.
2) iSync which automatically syncs with your mobile phone & copies the contact to Mac Address book. Then it is available anywhere.
Actually, this only works if your device is on the list. Otherwise, it sucks to be left out.
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If something is not there in Windows, chances are there is an alternative available for free. Unlike safari, which requires you to buy Saft for $!2 just for configuring it.
If something is not there in Windows, chances are there is an alternative available for free. Unlike safari, which requires you to buy Saft for $!2 just for configuring it.
That's why I use SafariStand and Safari Enhancer to configure my Safari. They're free!
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"If something is not there in Windows, chances are there is an alternative available for free. Unlike safari, which requires you to buy Saft for $!2 just for configuring it."
So much for this diatribe! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Use Camino, it's free and be happy!
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So much for this diatribe! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Use Camino, it's free and be happy!
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Posted 31 May 2007 - 08:32 AM
I found out one more pro of Mac OS X: if u take a screenshot using grab and u want to save it with extension .jpg u can only save it with extension .tiff or xyz.jpg.tiff and if u choose .jpg.tiff here is the wierd part just remove the .tiff after saving the file and then it ecomes jpg file and the size shoots drastically.
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Those who buy OEM computers are already secured, Yup Windows has flaws & thats why 3rd party antivirus suites etc are bundled with OEM computers. It is not the fault of Consumar that Norton takes performance away from Windows. Those who buy Windows retail, well....everyone knows how to use antivirus I guess. Some don't need that infect.
There is no remedy for "Intel Inside, Idiot Outside". MS tells the users to update there system regularly via automatic updates. Now it is not the fault of MS that a Pirated Windows user screams at MS that Windows isn't secure cos since he is pirating Windows he is unable to use Windows Update.
Right said....
XP Pro came in 2001 for $300.
MacOS X 10.0 came in 2001 for $130
MacOS X 10.1 came in 2002 for free
MacOS X 10.2 came for $130
MacOS X 10.3 came for $130
MacOS X 10.4 came for $130
Total $520
New features added, wait...those MS gave as free service packs.
Actually, you don't need specific gfx card for Mac now. It is a PC inside, running same hardware as a PC, so technically even a retail 8600GT will work. However, it can't because
1) Apple restricts the use of any graphics card other then the one they want to bundle. They restrict it in the EFI & OS itself. Example, Core Video is suppported in FX 5200 but not on FX 5900XT
2) Apple makes the driver themeselves, not the graphics card manufacturers. And these drivers are only for OpenGL (DirectX isn't for Mac)
Thin = Less space for vantilation = Heat = Porblem.
How thin can u go ?
Well, you like cluttered window enviroment, we don't. We minimize what we don't need. If we are listening to music, we minimize it to system tray & continue doing our work, does that means not multitasking.
I hope you know Flip3D isn't Expose.
Do so, it will help me & maybe some other forum members too. How come a unified way to switching windows (alttab) is bad compared to a 2 key way of Mac (commandtab & command`)
Obviously it does, in Yahoo messenger for Windows, that particular Window flashes in taskbar (Example) same goes with WLM. In Mac, the dock icon jumps but there is no way to just look at it & say which user messeged me, either use Comman` or expose.
Umm...isn't it required to buy $70 iLife if someone is using Panther? As far as I know, at the time of Panther, Macs did not used to come with iLife preinstalled.
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Tell that to the millions upon millions of infected Windows computers out there.
Tell that to the millions upon millions of infected Windows computers out there.
Those who buy OEM computers are already secured, Yup Windows has flaws & thats why 3rd party antivirus suites etc are bundled with OEM computers. It is not the fault of Consumar that Norton takes performance away from Windows. Those who buy Windows retail, well....everyone knows how to use antivirus I guess. Some don't need that infect.
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One, this is a load of bunk and if you're going to compare a fully patched system with anything, it should be against another fully patched system. OS X and Linux both have built-in auto-update mechanisms.
One, this is a load of bunk and if you're going to compare a fully patched system with anything, it should be against another fully patched system. OS X and Linux both have built-in auto-update mechanisms.
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FYI, a fully patched XP System is more secure then MacOS X & Linux.
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No, they don't.
There is no remedy for "Intel Inside, Idiot Outside". MS tells the users to update there system regularly via automatic updates. Now it is not the fault of MS that a Pirated Windows user screams at MS that Windows isn't secure cos since he is pirating Windows he is unable to use Windows Update.
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VFM? Value For Money? "Define acronyms before using them", my middle school English teacher used to say. Anyhow, I can tell you're trolling because you say "XP rox". Second, check your stats. One, shopping around, you can get OS X for $100 at time of release. Two, you aren't getting any new features with XP during that period. Three, Tiger has been around for over two years and we still have until October before the next version debuts. So much for that myth.
VFM? Value For Money? "Define acronyms before using them", my middle school English teacher used to say. Anyhow, I can tell you're trolling because you say "XP rox". Second, check your stats. One, shopping around, you can get OS X for $100 at time of release. Two, you aren't getting any new features with XP during that period. Three, Tiger has been around for over two years and we still have until October before the next version debuts. So much for that myth.
Right said....
XP Pro came in 2001 for $300.
MacOS X 10.0 came in 2001 for $130
MacOS X 10.1 came in 2002 for free
MacOS X 10.2 came for $130
MacOS X 10.3 came for $130
MacOS X 10.4 came for $130
Total $520
New features added, wait...those MS gave as free service packs.
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It's true that you need to use specific graphics cards for OS X. There's nothing barring graphics card manufacturers from bringing more products to the platform. However, you're completely ignoring the capability to upgrade the hard drives and CPUs in the Mac Pro. As for not including RAM as an upgrade, it really is a valid upgrade, you're just precluding it because it doesn't help your argument
It's true that you need to use specific graphics cards for OS X. There's nothing barring graphics card manufacturers from bringing more products to the platform. However, you're completely ignoring the capability to upgrade the hard drives and CPUs in the Mac Pro. As for not including RAM as an upgrade, it really is a valid upgrade, you're just precluding it because it doesn't help your argument
Actually, you don't need specific gfx card for Mac now. It is a PC inside, running same hardware as a PC, so technically even a retail 8600GT will work. However, it can't because
1) Apple restricts the use of any graphics card other then the one they want to bundle. They restrict it in the EFI & OS itself. Example, Core Video is suppported in FX 5200 but not on FX 5900XT
2) Apple makes the driver themeselves, not the graphics card manufacturers. And these drivers are only for OpenGL (DirectX isn't for Mac)
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Few people are fans of the GMA 950 in the MacBooks. However, the rest of the parts are quite solid and allowing the card to use more system RAM isn't going to help performance. 64 MB standalone cards far outperform it and more RAM isn't going to change that.
Few people are fans of the GMA 950 in the MacBooks. However, the rest of the parts are quite solid and allowing the card to use more system RAM isn't going to help performance. 64 MB standalone cards far outperform it and more RAM isn't going to change that.
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You are the first user ever I have seen who says a 128 MB graphics card will not give more performance compared to a 64 MB graphics card. For gods sake, it's onboard graphics, the more the RAM the better the frame buffer is
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You don't have an argument based on any actual reality. This hardware is engineered for proper operation. Arguing that thin = too much heat = failure is naive.
Thin = Less space for vantilation = Heat = Porblem.
How thin can u go ?
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Like the rest of your arguments, this lacks substance, or in this case, a concrete example.
Like the rest of your arguments, this lacks substance, or in this case, a concrete example.
Well, you like cluttered window enviroment, we don't. We minimize what we don't need. If we are listening to music, we minimize it to system tray & continue doing our work, does that means not multitasking.
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They didn't?
They didn't?
I hope you know Flip3D isn't Expose.
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It's a different paradigm. Just because it's not Windows, it doesn't mean it's wrong. Frequently (more often than not), the Mac way is faster. I'll explain it to you like a five year old if need be.
It's a different paradigm. Just because it's not Windows, it doesn't mean it's wrong. Frequently (more often than not), the Mac way is faster. I'll explain it to you like a five year old if need be.
Do so, it will help me & maybe some other forum members too. How come a unified way to switching windows (alttab) is bad compared to a 2 key way of Mac (commandtab & command`)
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Why do you care how many IM windows you have open? It doesn't help you chat better.
Why do you care how many IM windows you have open? It doesn't help you chat better.
Obviously it does, in Yahoo messenger for Windows, that particular Window flashes in taskbar (Example) same goes with WLM. In Mac, the dock icon jumps but there is no way to just look at it & say which user messeged me, either use Comman` or expose.
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All Macs for years and years have included iLife so your argument is tantamount to saying "If you don't have a CPU, your out of box experience won't be good." It's never true, so it's not an argument. I feel dumber for having read that. As for your incomplete sentence, we're all probably better off not knowing what the rest of it was.
All Macs for years and years have included iLife so your argument is tantamount to saying "If you don't have a CPU, your out of box experience won't be good." It's never true, so it's not an argument. I feel dumber for having read that. As for your incomplete sentence, we're all probably better off not knowing what the rest of it was.
Umm...isn't it required to buy $70 iLife if someone is using Panther? As far as I know, at the time of Panther, Macs did not used to come with iLife preinstalled.
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You feel sad that I pointed out flaws in your so called unflawd OS?
If the flaws of OSX i've mentoned here aren't actully flaws, then plz correct them.
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Posted 31 May 2007 - 09:12 AM
I've lost track of the replies, the quotes, and who has replied to whom, but here goes.
My wife bought a Dell last year and she gets nagged to subscribe to Macafee Security Suite. This started about 30-60 days after she got it. My sis-in-law bought a couple of computers recently. I'll have to check those this weekend, but my gut feeling is the AV suites are subscription based.
I wouldn't say a properly patched XP system is more secure than OSX. However, your out-of-the box exposure for XP is greater. I'd like to see your data supporting that XP is more secure than OSX.
You say XP added the same amount of features as the OSX releases. 10.3-10.4 brought spotlight and dashboard (which you can arguably say existed in both platforms with Konfabulator). XPSP1 and 2 was mostly security patches and bug-fixes, and the monthly MS patches were bug fixes and upgrades. What new features were rolled out in SP1 and 2?
Ilife has shipped with new Macs for at least two years. If someone buys Tiger, wipes their drive and installs Tiger they will have to either use Pacifist to open the package off the original discs, or copy it off a backup. I don't see how this is much different than someone buying Vista, wiping the drive and losing all of the OEM stuff that came on the build discs they most likely didn't get with their PC.
Hardware compatibility is a dual-edged sword: while variety is nice, by controlling the hardware Apple can keep quality high--you don't have the driver issues on Apples that you do with PCs.
OSX can minimize apps to the dock. I also think Expose is great, especially when cutting and pasting between documents. I love one-key access to either the desktop or all open windows.
Your point about YIM and how it flashes is sort of valid, but once you get a certain amount of open windows on an App, XP just stacks them into one system tray icon anyway.
I'm not certain what the difference is your trying to make between alt-tab and command-tab. It's the same number of keypresses. Yeah, it's different, but when I get in my wife's car the gear shift is on the floor while mine is on the steering column. It's different; so be it.
Saying because a Macbook is thin and thus more prone to heat issues than a PC laptop isn't a good argument because there are PC laptops thinner than Mac laptops.
I don't think you'll find many people here who consider OSX to be unflawed. I'm not thrilled with the Finder. I wish I could double-click and maximize a window. But I find its advantages to outweigh its detractions. I spend less time futzing with my Mac than I do with my PC.
My wife bought a Dell last year and she gets nagged to subscribe to Macafee Security Suite. This started about 30-60 days after she got it. My sis-in-law bought a couple of computers recently. I'll have to check those this weekend, but my gut feeling is the AV suites are subscription based.
I wouldn't say a properly patched XP system is more secure than OSX. However, your out-of-the box exposure for XP is greater. I'd like to see your data supporting that XP is more secure than OSX.
You say XP added the same amount of features as the OSX releases. 10.3-10.4 brought spotlight and dashboard (which you can arguably say existed in both platforms with Konfabulator). XPSP1 and 2 was mostly security patches and bug-fixes, and the monthly MS patches were bug fixes and upgrades. What new features were rolled out in SP1 and 2?
Ilife has shipped with new Macs for at least two years. If someone buys Tiger, wipes their drive and installs Tiger they will have to either use Pacifist to open the package off the original discs, or copy it off a backup. I don't see how this is much different than someone buying Vista, wiping the drive and losing all of the OEM stuff that came on the build discs they most likely didn't get with their PC.
Hardware compatibility is a dual-edged sword: while variety is nice, by controlling the hardware Apple can keep quality high--you don't have the driver issues on Apples that you do with PCs.
OSX can minimize apps to the dock. I also think Expose is great, especially when cutting and pasting between documents. I love one-key access to either the desktop or all open windows.
Your point about YIM and how it flashes is sort of valid, but once you get a certain amount of open windows on an App, XP just stacks them into one system tray icon anyway.
I'm not certain what the difference is your trying to make between alt-tab and command-tab. It's the same number of keypresses. Yeah, it's different, but when I get in my wife's car the gear shift is on the floor while mine is on the steering column. It's different; so be it.
Saying because a Macbook is thin and thus more prone to heat issues than a PC laptop isn't a good argument because there are PC laptops thinner than Mac laptops.
I don't think you'll find many people here who consider OSX to be unflawed. I'm not thrilled with the Finder. I wish I could double-click and maximize a window. But I find its advantages to outweigh its detractions. I spend less time futzing with my Mac than I do with my PC.
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Posted 31 May 2007 - 09:32 AM
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Those who buy OEM computers are already secured, Yup Windows has flaws & thats why 3rd party antivirus suites etc are bundled with OEM computers. It is not the fault of Consumar that Norton takes performance away from Windows. Those who buy Windows retail, well....everyone knows how to use antivirus I guess. Some don't need that infect.
Those who buy OEM computers are already secured, Yup Windows has flaws & thats why 3rd party antivirus suites etc are bundled with OEM computers. It is not the fault of Consumar that Norton takes performance away from Windows. Those who buy Windows retail, well....everyone knows how to use antivirus I guess. Some don't need that infect.
Now that's just pure FUD. Windows machine usually ship with DEMONSTRATION AV/security software. The purchaser is then required to subscribe to an update service, which clearly many do not (or do not use it if they do). Once the demo license expires, and the package(s) cannot be updated, those machines are vulnerable (often tthey may be exploited the very day after the last update, given the frequency of new windows virus).
I deal with university student's using windows all the time, and most are near completely ignorant about how to secure their computers. Most do not even realize that the machine will not auto-update if in sleep or hibernate mode - they assume since they clicked the autoupdate tab in Norton or whatever, it will just happen, somehow, sometime.
It's estimated that most home users do not regularly update their machines with MS security patches, and that most home users are not even running anti-spyware apps (or disable them, after they become annoyed at the performance hit of things like Spysweeper, or realize they will have to pay continually for updates).
Earthlink and webroot as well as CERT routinely report survey results indicating that on average 1/3rd of all home Windows machines are infected with spyware, trojans and other virus software. Webroot estimates the home machines, on average, have 27 separate spyware apps running on them.
The truth is that most windows home machines, and many work machines are either infected with spyware, virus or bots (eg. denial of service type bots). A lot of that is clearly the fault of ignorant or simply lazy owners/admins, but the reasons do not change the facts. Even a casual look at security web sites will confirm that virus and spyware infections are rampant among windows machines.
CRN's recent review of security in Vista stated that "Besides providing no improvement in virus protection vs. XP, Vista brings little or no security gains over its predecessor against such threats as RDS exploits, script exploits, image exploits, VML exploits, malformed Web pages and known malicious URLs, the Test Center found."
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Posted 31 May 2007 - 09:40 AM
I'm going to try to decipher out what you wrote because you totally hosed your post.
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Those who buy OEM computers are already secured,
No. They're not. That's the point. The overwhelming majority of those infected PCs are OEM. Stop trying to spin this because what you're saying just doesn't gel with reality. Those who buy OEM computers are already secured,
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FYI, a fully patched XP System is more secure then MacOS X & Linux.
You keep saying that like it's fact. Either come up with some sort of supporting material or stop saying it. Again, reality doesn't mesh with what you're saying. FYI, a fully patched XP System is more secure then MacOS X & Linux.
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There is no remedy for "Intel Inside, Idiot Outside". MS tells the users to update there system regularly via automatic updates. Now it is not the fault of MS that a Pirated Windows user screams at MS that Windows isn't secure cos since he is pirating Windows he is unable to use Windows Update.
That doesn't help if you get compromised before you can finish running Windows update or you're attacked by a zero day exploit. There is no remedy for "Intel Inside, Idiot Outside". MS tells the users to update there system regularly via automatic updates. Now it is not the fault of MS that a Pirated Windows user screams at MS that Windows isn't secure cos since he is pirating Windows he is unable to use Windows Update.
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New features added, wait...those MS gave as free service packs.
What great new features were added that are even on par with the features released in successive versions of OS X? New features added, wait...those MS gave as free service packs.
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2) Apple makes the driver themeselves, not the graphics card manufacturers. And these drivers are only for OpenGL (DirectX isn't for Mac)
Sorry. Wrong. Nvidia and ATI write the drivers for the cards. 2) Apple makes the driver themeselves, not the graphics card manufacturers. And these drivers are only for OpenGL (DirectX isn't for Mac)
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You are the first user ever I have seen who says a 128 MB graphics card will not give more performance compared to a 64 MB graphics card. For gods sake, it's onboard graphics, the more the RAM the better the frame buffer is
Please give a detailed explanation of why more memory storage would improve speed. You are the first user ever I have seen who says a 128 MB graphics card will not give more performance compared to a 64 MB graphics card. For gods sake, it's onboard graphics, the more the RAM the better the frame buffer is
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Thin = Less space for vantilation = Heat = Porblem.
How thin can u go ?
I can't believe how simplistic your logic is. Given proper cooling technique (fans, heatsinks, vents, etc), it doesn't matter how thin you go. Again, thin doesn't imply heat problem. Thin = Less space for vantilation = Heat = Porblem.
How thin can u go ?
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Well, you like cluttered window enviroment, we don't. We minimize what we don't need. If we are listening to music, we minimize it to system tray & continue doing our work, does that means not multitasking.
You can minimize to the dock. Shocking, I know, but true. I'm not sitting at one of my Macs at the moment, but as I recall, you can even close the window and have it keep working (one of the advantages of not having programs tied to window instances). Well, you like cluttered window enviroment, we don't. We minimize what we don't need. If we are listening to music, we minimize it to system tray & continue doing our work, does that means not multitasking.
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I hope you know Flip3D isn't Expose.
If you can't see that Flip3D is Microsoft's version of Expose, I can't help you. You're clearly burying your head in the sand. I hope you know Flip3D isn't Expose.
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Do so, it will help me & maybe some other forum members too. How come a unified way to switching windows (alttab) is bad compared to a 2 key way of Mac (commandtab & command`)
Let's say you have 5 word documents, 6 IM windows, and 12 browser windows open. In windows, in order to get to the 3rd IM window, you might have to tab through all those windows (reading the text for each one because the alttab window uses generic icons for each window) in order to get to it. On a Mac, command-tab to the relevant app, then command-tilde to the relevant window. You avoid a large number of keystrokes and get to your destination faster. Concrete. Do so, it will help me & maybe some other forum members too. How come a unified way to switching windows (alttab) is bad compared to a 2 key way of Mac (commandtab & command`)
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Obviously it does, in Yahoo messenger for Windows, that particular Window flashes in taskbar (Example) same goes with WLM. In Mac, the dock icon jumps but there is no way to just look at it & say which user messeged me, either use Comman+` or expose.
That has nothing to do with knowing how many of a type of window is open. This is a failing in the programming of many IM apps. Adium will actually put names of the people that IM'd you into the dock icon (and the names don't get hidden in a menu when you have a lot of stuff running). Obviously it does, in Yahoo messenger for Windows, that particular Window flashes in taskbar (Example) same goes with WLM. In Mac, the dock icon jumps but there is no way to just look at it & say which user messeged me, either use Comman+` or expose.
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Umm...isn't it required to buy $70 iLife if someone is using Panther? As far as I know, at the time of Panther, Macs did not used to come with iLife preinstalled.
WRONG WRONG WRONG. iLife is bunded with the machine. They've shipped with iLife for as long as it has existed. Umm...isn't it required to buy $70 iLife if someone is using Panther? As far as I know, at the time of Panther, Macs did not used to come with iLife preinstalled.
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You feel sad that I pointed out flaws in your so called unflawd OS?
Nice troll. No basis in reality, but nice troll. You feel sad that I pointed out flaws in your so called unflawd OS?
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If the flaws of OSX i've mentoned here aren't actully flaws, then plz correct them.
I think others have covered quite nicely already.
If the flaws of OSX i've mentoned here aren't actully flaws, then plz correct them.
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I've lost track of the replies, the quotes, and who has replied to whom, but here goes.
I've lost track of the replies, the quotes, and who has replied to whom, but here goes.
I know those quotes were buried so deep I have no idea what's going on now. The OP should have streamed the quotes and his response to make reading, and thus responding easier. As it is now I have no idea what point(s) he was trying to make and/or refute.
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Posted 31 May 2007 - 11:27 AM
OK, I'll add to the quote mess a little:
It doesn't have an address bar because if you Command/Apple click on the name of the file/folder in the window title bar (or click on the Path button in the window toolbar) you get the same thing without it taking up a ton of space.
Breadcrumb bar??? Didn't we just cover this in my previous paragraph? Are you so ignorant and anal that you have to be reminded that the window you're looking at resides on your computer?
And finally... YES YOU CAN drag a file and go up one level while the file is being dragged. Try column view bonehead!
In conclusion. Have you ever even used a Mac? /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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1) No option to cut and paste files between drives. (The most major flaw, IMHO)
Wrong! You don't even have to cut and paste. You simply hold down the Command/Apple key while dragging your file to wherever else you want to copy it and it physically removes the file from where it is and puts it where you drop it.1) No option to cut and paste files between drives. (The most major flaw, IMHO)
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4) Finder doesn't provide icon spacing, address bar or tabbed navigation such as Path Finder or Windows Explorer breadcrumb bar. You cannot drag a file & go up one level while the file still staying in drag.
Wrong! The finder DOES provide icon spacing, you're just ignorant.4) Finder doesn't provide icon spacing, address bar or tabbed navigation such as Path Finder or Windows Explorer breadcrumb bar. You cannot drag a file & go up one level while the file still staying in drag.
It doesn't have an address bar because if you Command/Apple click on the name of the file/folder in the window title bar (or click on the Path button in the window toolbar) you get the same thing without it taking up a ton of space.
Breadcrumb bar??? Didn't we just cover this in my previous paragraph? Are you so ignorant and anal that you have to be reminded that the window you're looking at resides on your computer?
And finally... YES YOU CAN drag a file and go up one level while the file is being dragged. Try column view bonehead!
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9) Windows do not maximize, limiting the zooming capabilities of Safari or Finder. You end up with many Windows on your screen, which you don't even require.
OK, you're just an idiot if you believe anything you wrote there.9) Windows do not maximize, limiting the zooming capabilities of Safari or Finder. You end up with many Windows on your screen, which you don't even require.
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12) Lack of 3rd party applications. There are applications but they all do almost the same thing. They just look good without providing anything new in most cases.
Ever hear of MacUpdate, MacApper, VersionTracker, iUseThis or any other site that offers thousands upon thousands of apps available for the Mac?12) Lack of 3rd party applications. There are applications but they all do almost the same thing. They just look good without providing anything new in most cases.
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14) iMovie is not included with Mac OS. If you want to run it on old version of Mac OS X you will need to buy iLife.
iMovie ships free on every Mac sold for several years now... bonehead!14) iMovie is not included with Mac OS. If you want to run it on old version of Mac OS X you will need to buy iLife.
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17) It asks you to enter password just for simple installation like installing DivX Codec or install an iContainer in Candybar.
So does Windows if you're not logged in as the root user. And in most cases, it's the application itself that asks this, not the OS.17) It asks you to enter password just for simple installation like installing DivX Codec or install an iContainer in Candybar.
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18) This can be attributed to the pathetic keyboard based nevigation in Mac OS. In Windows or Linux, by just pressing the Tab button, I can cycle between the controls & boxes or check boxes in an application. You know, more like that tab button acts as "Next form" button in those OS.
OK, you're really just a moron.18) This can be attributed to the pathetic keyboard based nevigation in Mac OS. In Windows or Linux, by just pressing the Tab button, I can cycle between the controls & boxes or check boxes in an application. You know, more like that tab button acts as "Next form" button in those OS.
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19) Page zoom in Firefox & Safari both is bad. It just zooms or increses the text size, i seriously miss the Page zoom of IE 7 which is best.
You're talking about applications, not the OS. However, if you want to zoom in, just hold the control key down and use the scroll wheel on your mouse.19) Page zoom in Firefox & Safari both is bad. It just zooms or increses the text size, i seriously miss the Page zoom of IE 7 which is best.
In conclusion. Have you ever even used a Mac? /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
