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Mac Gems Weblog: Saft 8.3.12

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 07:30 AM

Saft adds many new features to Safari, including draggable tabs and search shortcuts. [more]
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:52 AM

Good lord, what went wrong with the editing of this article? You're halfway through it before there is any mention of what the hell this product does. And then I guess the clock runs out, so there's this: "Saft does much more than this." No clue as to what, of course. Jeez.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:13 PM

"In a universe of numerous Safari plug-ins, Saft (4.5 mice; $12) is perhaps the most feature-loaded and indispensable of the bunch."
Since Saft does so many things, I chose to lead with a general description of what type of program it is, then explain how it works (as some people are very concerned about using Input Managers on their systems), then go into the features I like the most.
Apparently you don't like that approach, sorry...
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 03:50 PM

Is Saft compatible with Safari Extender? Safari Extender also uses InputManager.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 03:55 PM

I've had them both running before without any problems.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:42 AM

So, you 'Gemed' Saft before Leopard is released.
Then what? Do you know, or can you find out if Saft will survive after Leopard? Since you do know that the input manager feature will be no longer, in Leopard.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:28 AM

As far as software goes, Leopard simply doesn't exist: we can't write about it in any way beyond what Apple has listed on its public pages (or revealed during the WWDC keynote). So whether something will or will not work in Leopard has no impact on how it's covered today. It can't, because (a) even if we test it and it breaks, we can't write about it, and (b) we wouldn't be able to cover anything here until Leopard shipped, right? After all, it's possible that Leopard might break every single piece of third party software in existence today. It's highly doubtful, but since we can't talk about testing anything on Leopard, it's possible. So instead of speculating on what will or won't work in Leopard, we write about how things work on the currently shipping OS.
As far as "knowing" that the input manager feature will no longer be in Leopard, please point to the public Apple page where they state this fact. I'll save you the trouble of looking, though: there's no such page. There have been rumors to that effect, but there have been many other rumors as well ("ZFS will be the default file system in Leopard"), and none of them will be proven or disproven until October.
Apple has not stated one way or another anything about Input Manager support in Leopard. Until Leopard is released, we can't talk about software compatibility (unless it happens to be something Apple discusses on their public pages), so there's really nothing that will be gained by mentioning Leopard (unless it were a simple disclaimer: "This software has not been tested under 10.5, because 10.5 hasn't shipped yet. It may work, it may not.") And quite frankly, I don't see the benefit in that statement, because it provides no useful information for the reader.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 09:31 AM

Does "Block HTML Refreshing" mean that MacWorld's annoying 60-second refreshes can be stopped? Who there thinks that up-to-the-minute content is so valuable that it excuses a browser refresh while in the middle of reading an article?
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Posted 29 June 2007 - 06:28 PM

Yes, Block HTML Refreshing does stop the very annoying Macworld page refresh. Unfortunately, it also blocks other pages from loading at all under some circumstances. So I'm constantly toggling it on and off. I'm anxiously waiting for Pith Helmet to be updated for Safari 3 so I can again block those vexing animated adds Macworld bludgeons us with. Saft's ad blocking is not as robust out of the box. You can add items to it - if you know what to add. Pith Helmet has a larger default set that stops Macworld ads in their tracks.
In respect to Leopard, even if we knew how some programs work under 10.5, it would still be worth reviewing them on Tiger. It's not like the whole Mac user base will upgrade to Leopard in October. As with Tiger, the migration will be gradual over two or three years. Tiger issues will continue to be relevant for some time to come.
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Posted 29 June 2007 - 06:58 PM

We'll certainly cover both 10.4 and 10.5 compatibility once 10.5 has shipped. Until then, though, it's 10.4 only /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 05:53 PM

Computer users might be divided into the "must know the clockworks" and the "must know the time" groups. Put the "how it works" stuff in a separate frame or side box for the geeks to gaze at. Most shoppers want to know if the soap will make our clothes clean, not what chemicals are in it.
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