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You've heard all about Leopard's features. You've run down to the store to pick up your copy. Now what? Just follow Dan Frakes' steps for a stress-free upgrade to Mac OS X 10.5. more
Installing Leopard
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Posted 26 October 2007 - 05:30 PM
It's pretty easy, actually. Connect the backup drive, making sure its size is large enough to hold your entire boot drive. Then launch Disk Utility and click on the Restore button. Drag your boot drive into the Source field, drag the backup drive into the Destination field, check the Erase Destination box, and then click on Restore.
Note that this will indeed erase your backup drive, so you should make sure there's nothing important on it. Also, make sure you put the right drive in Source and Destination, respectively /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Note that this will indeed erase your backup drive, so you should make sure there's nothing important on it. Also, make sure you put the right drive in Source and Destination, respectively /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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Posted 26 October 2007 - 06:41 PM
Leopard installed without a hitch. A few things...took about 30 seconds for my hard drive to show up for installation (iMac G5 2.1 GHz iSight). My external FireWire drive appeared immediately. At the end of the installation, the "About one minute" took about 10 minutes.
I carbon copy cloned my Tiger install to my external drive. iPhoto 6 on the external drive crashes constantly. Guess that clone didn't really go well. iPhoto 6 runs great in Leopard.
Leopard first impressions: the transparent menu bar stinks. Depending on the background photo, can be very hard to read.
Front Row: Very nice update. No longer loads iTunes in the background to play music. Nice! Assume the same with photos, haven't tried it yet.
System Update: Downloads two updates. Afterwards, crashed and required a power down to recover.
Haven't done much else with it yet. Haven't done Time Machine yet. iCal now displays the correct date even when not running...finally!
Oh, Cover Flow and QuickView in the Finder are very cool. List view looks like a Quicken Checkbook with alternating white/blue rows. I like the old style.
I carbon copy cloned my Tiger install to my external drive. iPhoto 6 on the external drive crashes constantly. Guess that clone didn't really go well. iPhoto 6 runs great in Leopard.
Leopard first impressions: the transparent menu bar stinks. Depending on the background photo, can be very hard to read.
Front Row: Very nice update. No longer loads iTunes in the background to play music. Nice! Assume the same with photos, haven't tried it yet.
System Update: Downloads two updates. Afterwards, crashed and required a power down to recover.
Haven't done much else with it yet. Haven't done Time Machine yet. iCal now displays the correct date even when not running...finally!
Oh, Cover Flow and QuickView in the Finder are very cool. List view looks like a Quicken Checkbook with alternating white/blue rows. I like the old style.
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Posted 26 October 2007 - 07:04 PM
Is it possible to make the backup without deleting the content on the drive? I keep my aperture masters on the external drive that I would like to use for my backup prior to installing leopard. My backup plan is to just backup my user directory as usual on to the drive and move forward from there.
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Posted 26 October 2007 - 10:29 PM
"Erase and Install This method actually erases your entire hard drive"
Not the drive, the partition. I used E&I and my Bootcamp Partition was left untouched. After the Leopard installation, I loaded Windoze, inserted the Leopard Install Disk, and my Bootcamp drivers were updated in Windows.
Not the drive, the partition. I used E&I and my Bootcamp Partition was left untouched. After the Leopard installation, I loaded Windoze, inserted the Leopard Install Disk, and my Bootcamp drivers were updated in Windows.
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Posted 26 October 2007 - 10:59 PM
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Not the drive, the partition.
Not the drive, the partition.
Good catch; it should have noted that if your drive is partitioned, only the partition you choose as the install location will be erased.
EDIT: Article updated.
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 09:20 AM
I have a pretty standard system, but had trouble with the standard upgrade (default) option. Everything installed correctly, but on a reboot I got frozen on a "blue screen". I seethed for a while cursing that this was what I had gotten a Mac to avoid...
The next morning, since I had a fully bootable back (thanks to SuperDuper), I just chose Erase and Install. I used Migration Assistant to tranfser apps and documents. Only problem here was that I had chosen a user name the same as my backup, so I had to create a new administrator user temporarily so that the backup could replace the user on my main machine. (I presume using Setup Assistant would have avoided this hitch). But then everything copied over beautifully, and I didn't have to reinstall or correct anything, all apps just worked fine with the same preferences as before! Now I'm glad again that I have a Mac...
Oh, and Leopard rocks. It's fast, slick and packed with both cool and useful features. I look forward to all the hints about using it that are bound to come soon!
The next morning, since I had a fully bootable back (thanks to SuperDuper), I just chose Erase and Install. I used Migration Assistant to tranfser apps and documents. Only problem here was that I had chosen a user name the same as my backup, so I had to create a new administrator user temporarily so that the backup could replace the user on my main machine. (I presume using Setup Assistant would have avoided this hitch). But then everything copied over beautifully, and I didn't have to reinstall or correct anything, all apps just worked fine with the same preferences as before! Now I'm glad again that I have a Mac...
Oh, and Leopard rocks. It's fast, slick and packed with both cool and useful features. I look forward to all the hints about using it that are bound to come soon!
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 10:40 AM
Installation took 35 minutes on my MacBook Pro, I had expected an hour like this article said. Being the risk taker that I am, I choose the default install method, I guess it is faster than archiving. I did not have the option to deselect languages, they were all grayed out, maybe because I already had them installed previously (?) they were all set to be upgraded and there was no way to bypass. Three new languages were not grayed out (like Polish) so I deselected those. The only thing I could do in the customisation of install was to avoid Printer Drivers I did not want.
Just now upgraded my iMac and it too was only 35 minutes. I had APE installed on both machines, but no 'blue screen' problems for me (as has been reported in other news sources linking APE to the problem).
Things that don't work:
X-Lite softphone can no longer connect to my SIP connection /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Desktop Transporter needs updating
Boinc also doesn't work
Just now upgraded my iMac and it too was only 35 minutes. I had APE installed on both machines, but no 'blue screen' problems for me (as has been reported in other news sources linking APE to the problem).
Things that don't work:
X-Lite softphone can no longer connect to my SIP connection /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Desktop Transporter needs updating
Boinc also doesn't work
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 11:29 AM
There's a # of us out there with Leopard DVD's that can't get the thing to mount on the desktop at present to even consider an installation, rebooting and holding the C-key does nothing either as the machine no matter what will eventually spit the disc out (it makes some noises but it doesn't particularly sound like it's trying to read it) without mounting it. I think it's an issue related to the Superdrives the computer comes with as I have 2 Mac minis in my household, the Leopard DVD won't mount on the desktop on my 1.25 Ghz. G4 Mini with Superdrive, while it will mount fine on my father's 1.25 Ghz. G4 Mini with Combo drive. The 2 machines are otherwise identical other than that aspect, well that and I have a Wacom Graphire 3 tablet/mouse on my mini.
I've noticed on Apple's site in the Help Forums there's others with Macbooks, Macbook Pro's, older iMac G4's, and other machines running through the same problem. Many of these machines come either standard or optionally with DVD Superdrives and many users have posted info. to show that their drives are Matsushita-based units (i.e. Panasonic). It also appears to not be strictly a standard disc issue as many have experienced it with copies of The Family Pack version whereas mine is the standard disc (was considering the Family pack but was told by 2 workers at my Apple Store in Oakbrook that you can install the regular disc legally on up to 2 machines, one of the workers was at the Genius Bar FWIW).
Just figured I'd let people know that there's a few wrinkles out there before they jump in hogwild. Good luck to everyone that does jump on-board this early, and hopefully for those with problems there'll be fixes coming shortly. I can't wait to be able to use it, although I know I probably should wait for all of the patches and fixes to be released before installing. The Finder feels so much snappier that it alone feels like it's worth the $. I also love the new unified Mail look compared to the present Mail in Tiger. Everything else is just icing on the cake... or at least will be whenever I can get this thing installed.
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I've noticed on Apple's site in the Help Forums there's others with Macbooks, Macbook Pro's, older iMac G4's, and other machines running through the same problem. Many of these machines come either standard or optionally with DVD Superdrives and many users have posted info. to show that their drives are Matsushita-based units (i.e. Panasonic). It also appears to not be strictly a standard disc issue as many have experienced it with copies of The Family Pack version whereas mine is the standard disc (was considering the Family pack but was told by 2 workers at my Apple Store in Oakbrook that you can install the regular disc legally on up to 2 machines, one of the workers was at the Genius Bar FWIW).
Just figured I'd let people know that there's a few wrinkles out there before they jump in hogwild. Good luck to everyone that does jump on-board this early, and hopefully for those with problems there'll be fixes coming shortly. I can't wait to be able to use it, although I know I probably should wait for all of the patches and fixes to be released before installing. The Finder feels so much snappier that it alone feels like it's worth the $. I also love the new unified Mail look compared to the present Mail in Tiger. Everything else is just icing on the cake... or at least will be whenever I can get this thing installed.
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 02:43 PM
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I did not have the option to deselect languages, they were all grayed out, maybe because I already had them installed previously (?) they were all set to be upgraded and there was no way to bypass. Three new languages were not grayed out (like Polish) so I deselected those. The only thing I could do in the customisation of install was to avoid Printer Drivers I did not want.
I did not have the option to deselect languages, they were all grayed out, maybe because I already had them installed previously (?) they were all set to be upgraded and there was no way to bypass. Three new languages were not grayed out (like Polish) so I deselected those. The only thing I could do in the customisation of install was to avoid Printer Drivers I did not want.
That's correct; when you do an Update install, you don't have the option to skip things that are already installed; doing so would leave you with a mix of older and newer OS-related files.
