[Macworld]

Post your comments for Adobe updates InDesign and InCopy CS3 here

[Streamhawk]

Indesign CS3 5.0.2 still presents a problem with the hide function of the app, when opened the app will not hide when you select "Hide Indesign" in the app's main menu. This problem is in Leopard, haven't tested in Tiger. Please check it out, maybe it's just me.

[venividivici]

This behavior is so annoying. I know I can use virtual spaces, but I want to be able to HIDE the ID Application. Adobe, Please fix this... i have sent requests to Adobe's Support team. They seem to not listen.

[4fx]

ID 5.0.1, OSX 10.4.10

Hide function works just fine. Possibly a Leopard problem, I'll check on my laptop tonight.

[moose_n_squirrel]

Previous two posters: It helps to read teh release notes of the update, which I took a look at first (I haven't even downloaded this update yet). On the first page it says:

>This update does not address recently identified issues running Adobe InDesign CS3 on Mac OS X Leopard (v10.5.1). >Known issues include the following:
> Users are unable to hide InDesign CS3 using the cmd+h keyboard shortcut.*
>* InDesign CS3 may unexpectedly quit when using the Place, Save, Save As or Export commands using either the OS or Adobe dialog boxes.
>Unfortunately, there are no workarounds for these known issues. Adobe and Apple are working closely to provide fixes. Initial testing indicates that these fixes should be provided through an update to Mac OS X Leopard. Consequently, it is not part of the InDesign CS3 5.0.2 update.
>No public schedule for these fixes is available at this time, but both companies understand their urgency and are working to address this. InDesign CS3 is compliant with Mac OS X Leopard as stated in the Adobe Creative Suite 3 Mac OS X Leopard FAQ which can be located at: www.adobe.com/support/products/pdfs/leopardsupport.pdf.

[moose_n_squirrel]

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[adobephile]

I think that, all things considered, and specifically, Apple's transition to Intel and Leopard, and Adobe's acquisition of Macromedia, that Adobe has been doing quite an admirable job with both integrating the MM products, adding functionality, and making general improvements almost everywhere in their products. I think that's a huge accomplishment, and I, for one, very much appreciate it.

My PowerMac G5 2.0 GHz dualie just keeps on running and seems to welcome Leopard and CS3, and the combination is quite pleasant to work with.

Thanks, Adobe, for the ID update and for continuing to be a truly great software company whose products enable me to make a good living.

[venividivici]

I actually think that this is not an improvement. I know Adobe has had a lot in its plate. But given the reality of work and updates. How apple mocks people using Vista on how they're downgrading. It has come down to almost the same with Apple and Adobe. I know of a few people that actually did the transition to Leopard and they had to downgrade to Tiger. And in my shop, with more than ten graphic designers using Adobe's Creative Suite 2 (CS2) they have to keep using CS2 because our two test machines (New iMac Intels bought just in December) have been crashing and having the big issue that is unresolved still:
InDesign CS3 may unexpectedly quit when using the Place, Save, Save As or Export commands using either the OS or Adobe dialog boxes.

I actually think this is unnacceptable.

When your work, company and livelyhood depends of these tools and for them to function correctly. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!

[adobephile]

venividivici said:

I actually think that this is not an improvement. I know Adobe has had a lot in its plate. But given the reality of work and updates. How apple mocks people using Vista on how they're downgrading. It has come down to almost the same with Apple and Adobe. I know of a few people that actually did the transition to Leopard and they had to downgrade to Tiger. And in my shop, with more than ten graphic designers using Adobe's Creative Suite 2 (CS2) they have to keep using CS2 because our two test machines (New iMac Intels bought just in December) have been crashing and having the big issue that is unresolved still:

InDesign CS3 may unexpectedly quit when using the Place, Save, Save As or Export commands using either the OS or Adobe dialog boxes.



I actually think this is unnacceptable.



When your work, company and livelyhood depends of these tools and for them to function correctly. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!

So you need to take responsibility for YOUR part in YOUR problems. I haven't had the problems you describe. CS3 and Leopard work VERY WELL on my Powermac G5. Realize that YOUR problems are holding you back.

This is one of the main reasons I post in these article threads: to weigh in with the facts as I see them in my experience on the positive side so that people don't read just the gloom and doom you people are so eager to spew.

[venividivici]

I agree that we should not only come here and 'spew' our frustrations when it can be somebody's system's problem.

Our two test iMac's were set with nothing more than the installed version (they came with) of Leopard, and we install a clean CS3 Design Suite. There is no third-party applications, prefrences or plugins. The problem is teh sae in both computers. All other applications work well with the exception of InDesign (keeps quiting inadvertently) This issue has been posted in Adobe's notes.

I post this issue here, for anyone to realize that if they have a new Intel Mac, Leopard latest release 10.5.1 and InDesign 5.0.2 that they may experience these quits when saving, placing or exporting PDF's from InDesign.

Probably your InDesign documents do not have any external links plaaced inside them, you're not svain, or saving as, or you're not exporting PDF's more likely the combination of the three. And if other users are experiencing the same issues, I don't think it is an isolated (my responsibility) kind of thing.

I would think, that using a Macintosh computer since 1986, using Adobe products since 1988 and InDesign since 1999, I feel really confident I know when it is a system-software vendor issue, and not an user issue ;-)

[adobephile]

False assumptions. I do ALL of those things and have never experienced any such problems.

[moose_n_squirrel]

Given that the unexpected quit problem is in the Adobe release notes, it's certainly a real problem.

I have no production Macs running Leopard at this time because of the numerous officially documented issues between Apple and Adobe. As far as the ones Apple needs to fix, I eagerly await 10.5.2 which is rumored to weigh in at almost half a gigabyte worth of fixes. Maybe then I can upgrade.

[wolfcreek]

If you haven't had problems, you are very lucky. Since using InDesign CS3, I've had all the problems described. CS2 was rock solid. Indy CS3 is not dependable at all. I crash on a regular basis during the work day on my G5 iMac running 10.5. As mentioned, this is not a computer problem, it's an Adobe problem. For those of us who shelled out many hundreds of dollars for the CS3 suite, it's unbelievable that InDesign doesn't work dependably. Had I known of these issues, I wouldn't have upgraded. And if there is a CS4 down the road...well, forget that!

[Graphos]

I for one have stayed away from Leopard for obvious reasons. In my case I need my Mac to be the most reliable computer possible. I am anxiously waiting for Apple to release 10.5.2 or whatever number it is, that is supposed to pack a lot of bug fixes. Panther broke a bunch of stuff for me. I had to discard a perfectly good working scanner for lack of Panther support from Epson. I know that I can not blame anybody but the manufacturer (Epson), and even then, how can a realistically expect them to support a 4 year old (back then), scanner. But was moving to Panther worth ditching my scanner?

Only to be fair to Adobe, they did state way ahead of time, that Acrobat Distiller was broken in Leopard. I need distiller big time, so to me it's a waiting game. No amount of new features are worth losing valuable time. At this point Leopard is sitting gathering dust by my computer, yet uninstalled.