[Gary54]

lrivers said:

One category for which there really is NO decent Mac solution is GIS software (I'm pretty geeky, but I've never gotten GRASS to do anything but the demo files, which doesn't help).

Canvas has a GIS version, but dropped Mac support with the last release rather than rewrite for UB. Vectorworks has a Landmark version, and it seems to me I recall there is an Italian GIS app. Then there is gvSIG Desktop in a Mac version, and Quantum GIS. A lot of the really great CAD oriented apps seem to be European in origin. But like a lot of engineering, the pickings are slim. Which also means opportunities for developers too.

[anil_robo]

My only reason to use Windows is to play games. Though I have played several free and open source games that are available for both macs and windows at the same time, I have noticed performance issues on macs. My macbook heated up and the main logic board was fried due to overheating when I played Warcraft III Reign of Chaos. I'm playing a free game Planeshift these days - graphic performance is playable on windows, but totally unplayable on OS X.

[PFXFV]

And don't forget BBC iPlayer. The OSX version should arrive any day...
Oh, and let's not mention Quckbooks options on Windows, we Mac people are sensitive.
Maybe I shouldn't bring up contact management software, or the nearly pitiful state of it on OSX.
Did I tell you about the tools for nonprofits available on Windows?
And as my son heads to engineering school, he's tearfully kissing the Mac world goodbye.
But I have iPhoto! Yippee!

[Gary54]

{quote:title=PFXFV wrote:}{quote}
And don't forget BBC iPlayer. The OSX version should arrive any day...
Oh, and let's not mention Quckbooks options on Windows, we Mac people are sensitive.
Maybe I shouldn't bring up contact management software, or the nearly pitiful state of it on OSX.
Did I tell you about the tools for nonprofits available on Windows?
And as my son heads to engineering school, he's tearfully kissing the Mac world goodbye.
But I have iPhoto! Yippee!

And you call Outlook a good program? It's functional and that's about it. A lot of people are stuck on it. Anyone ever mention that bad habits, like cigarettes .. are tough to kick?
I personally don't give a damn about QB, I just use MYOB. It works fine. Other people appear to be stuck on QB.
I don't know a thing about non profit software. Maybe you can illuminate the subject for us.
Sounds like you and your son have some ... issues .. which have nothing to do with computers.
Glad you enjoy your iPhoto ... Too simplistic for me and for most of not all graphics people. It was taking up dsk space so I deleted it.
Since you appear to be suffering from the lack of contact manager software, I have something for you. Three in fact. <http://www.marketcircle.com/> Or
<http://www.chronosnet.com/Products/sohoorganizer.html> Or ... due for release in July: <http://www.nowsoftware.com/nighthawkSubsite/index.html>
.. if ... you can hold out that long lost in the wilderness. Pack extra food and .... good luck.

[PFXFV]

Ah, Gary54 -- Another Mac user who who can't locate his Prozac.
(And Gary, if you are an extremely sensitive Macolyte, please do not read the rest of my response.)

Let's take your issues in order:

"And you call Outlook a good program?"
No Gary. I never mentioned Outlook. I've never even used it. Why don't you try Ritalin also.

"I personally don't give a damn about QB,"
That's nice. I like my bookkeeper to get things done efficiently, which in our field, can currently only be done on a PC. I'm very glad you can use another program.

"I don't know a thing about non profit software."
Obviously, but most people don't need to. I just happen to be in the nonprofit field.

"Maybe you can illuminate the subject for us."
I could, but you can attend seminars on this in just about every city in the country.

"Sounds like you and your son have some ... issues .. which have nothing to do with computers."
I'm sure we do. My son definitely loves his Mac, but it won't help him get his engineering degree. As for our other issues, we'll need see a therapist.

"Glad you enjoy your iPhoto"
I was being sarcastic, which is beyond the intelectual capacity of some Mac fanatics.

"Since you appear to be suffering from the lack of contact manager software,"
Yes I am.

"I have something for you. Three in fact."
None of them can hold a widget to what PC's offer. I was holding out hope for a decent Mac program, but it seems some new web based products will make the Mac/PC decision moot on this front. I'll be taking my office in that direction later this year.

" .. if ... you can hold out that long lost in the wilderness. Pack extra food and .... "
I'm not sure which wilderness you are referring to, but i would prefer the Wind River Range in Wyoming. I'll make sure to take come extra food with me.

"good luck."
Thanks, I appreciate the warm sentiments. As for you Gary, have a nice evening. Relax, take a shower and have a glass of wine. But only if you don't find the Prozac!

[Gary54]

Smiles. What were you just saying about not recognizing sarcasm? No, I have never used a PC in my life, and don't know a thing about what's available or what they can do. Or not.

<--- Turtlenecked starry eyed impressionable geek college age kid after all. Not. 30 year construction industry veterans thinking about retirement are not known for thin skins. I also recognize a flame baiter when I see one. While it's understandable you're threatened by the prospect of a computer system expanding its user base, not to worry. It'll be ok. Have another glass of wine. Do have fun in Wyoming while discussing your drinking habit with your therapist. Oh, btw .. when was it you stopped beating your wife?

I prefer the beach in Florida thanks.

The climate is hotter and the scenery lots ... curvier .. and .. inspirational :)

[PFXFV]

Gary, thanks for your thoughtful response. You definitely fit the stereotype of a construction worker, although I mean no offense to the profession as a whole.
Here are a few links for you:
http://braindance.com/bdiread1.htm.
Try this one also:
http://www.collegebo...kills/123.html.
You might need this linkj in Florida to help you with the "curves"; it will help you before you meet them face-to-face:
http://www.wikihow.c...le-on-the-Phone .
After perusing some of your other angry posts, you will definitely need this:
http://www.angermana...ntseminar.com/.
About the wife-beating comment, you may attain deeper self-awareness after reading this link :
http://en.wikipedia....cal_projection.

Good luck on your construction career and retirement.

[wogsinheat]

This one is for the windows user who is trying to start a flame war with gary54 (and all the rest of the "macolytes" and "we (sic)" mac people here).

I decided to look for more killer windows apps not available on the mac. A quick google search revealed several. Here's part of that list:

May 15 2008
Trojan-Downloader.Win32.VB.bnp
This malicious program is a Trojan. It is a Windows PE EXE file. It is 117248 bytes in size. It is packed using UPX. The unpacked file is approximately 280KB in size. This Trojan is written in Visual Basic. Installation Once launched, the Trojan creates a folder called "DETER177" in the Windows...
May 15 2008
Trojan-Clicker.Win32.Tiny.a
This Trojan is designed to increase the number of times a site appears to have been visited. It is a Windows PE EXE file. It is 5120 bytes in size. It is written in C.
May 15 2008
Trojan-Clicker.Win32.Tiny.b
This Trojan is designed to increase the number of times a site appears to have been visited. It is a Windows PE EXE file. It is 1004 bytes in size. It is written in C.
May 15 2008
Exploit.VBS.Phel.dd
This exploit program uses an unpatched vulnerability in Internet Explorer which makes it possible to run random code on the victim machine. It is an HTML page which contains Visual Basic Script and Java Script scenarios. It is 1622 bytes in size.
May 15 2008
Worm.Win32.Bomzh.b
This worm propagates by creating copies of itself on local disks and write-accessible network resources. It is a Windows PE EXE file. It is 163840 bytes in size. Installation Once launched, the worm copies its executable file to the Windows system directory: %System%windata.exe The worm then...
May 15 2008
Exploit.JS.Agent.bl
This exploit program uses an unpatched vulnerability in Baofeng Storm which makes it possible to run random code on the victim machine. It is an HTML page which contains Visual Basic Script and Java Script scenarios. It is 7599 bytes in size.
Apr 29 2008
Trojan.Win32.Delf.abx
This Trojan has a malicious payload. It is a Windows PE EXE file. It is 945664 bytes in size. It is not packed in any way. It is written in Delphi. Installation When launched, the Trojan copies itself as shown below: %Documents and Settings%%user%Start...
Apr 25 2008
Trojan-Downloader.VBS.Agent.bk
This Trojan downloads other files via the Internet and launches them for execution on the victim machine. It is an HTML page which contains Visual Basic Script and Java Script scenarios. It is 1238 bytes in size.
Apr 25 2008
Trojan-Downloader.VBS.Agent.ch
This Trojan downloads other files via the Internet and launches them for execution on the victim machine. It is an HTML page which contains Visual Basic Script and Java Script scenarios. It is 18716 bytes in size.
Apr 25 2008
Trojan-Downloader.VBS.Agent.cd
This Trojan downloads other files via the Internet and launches them for execution on the victim machine without the user?s knowledge or consent. It is an HTML page which contains Visual Basic Script and Java Script scenarios. It is 4774 bytes in size.
Executable File and Boot Viruses

1. BWME.GSD.1145
It is a harmless memory resident virus. It hooks INT 21h and infects EXE files that are executed or opened. It was created with Biological Warfare Mutation Engine - it is a polymorphic engine, like the MtE and TPE engines. This virus writes itself to the end of the files. It contains the text...
2. BWME.Gangi.1130
It is a dangerous memory resident parasitic virus. It hooks INT 21h and writes itself to the end of EXE files that are executed. The virus has a bug and can halt the system. It was created with Biological Warfare Mutation Engine - it is a polymorphic engine, like the MtE and TPE engines. This virus...
3. BWME.Test.1287
It is a harmless memory resident virus. It hooks INT 21h and infects COM and EXE files that are executed or opened. It was created with Biological Warfare Mutation Engine - it is a polymorphic engine, like the MtE and TPE engines. This virus writes itself to the end of the files. It contains the...
4. BWME.Twelve.1378
It is a harmless nonmemory resident parasitic virus. It searches for COM and EXE files and infects them. It was created with Biological Warfare Mutation Engine - it is a polymorphic engine, like the MtE and TPE engines. This virus writes itself to the end of the files. It contains the text strings:...
5. Devices.2000
It is a harmless memory resident parasitic polymorphic virus. It writes itself to beginning of SYS and to the end of EXE files. While executing an infected EXE file the virus opens the C:CONFIG.SYS file, scans it for the names of device drivers, infects them and returns to the host program. While...
6. EICAR-Test-File
EICAR is a short 68-byte COM file that is detected by anti-virus programs as a virus, but is actually NOT "VIRAL" at all. When executed it just displays a message and returns control to the host program. Why is this harmless file detected as a virus? The file was created in order to demonstrate to...
7. Happy_II.506
It is a harmless nonmemory resident parasitic virus. It searches for COM files (except COMMAND.COM), then writes itself to the end of the file. The virus does not manifests itself in any way, it contains the text strings: *.com COMMAND. HAPPY v1.03 © PROFESSOR,KPI
8. Joke.1068
This is not a dangerous nonmemory resident parasitic virus. It searches for .COM files (except COMMAND.COM) of current directory and writes itself to the end of the file. Sometimes it display: At last ...... ALIVE !!!!! I guess your computer is infected by the Big Joke Virus. Release 4/4-91 Lucky...
9. Kot.b
This is a dangerous memory resident boot virus. It hooks INT 13h, and writes itself to the BOOT sectors of floppy disks and to the MBR sector of the hard drive. On the 15th day of each month, the virus stops booting in a computer. The virus contains the text string: Kot
10. Lemena.3544
It is not a dangerous memory resident parasitic polymorphic virus. It copies itself to the video memory at address BC00:0000, hooks INT 22h (Terminate call), returns control to host program, waits for termination and hooks INT 21h. To hook INT 21h the virus patches the DOS kernel. The virus then...
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That, folks is a truly awesome list of true killer apps for windows. And windows users would really, really like to share these wonderful programmes with us.

[Gary54]

{quote:title=PFXFV wrote:}{quote} You definitely fit the stereotype of a construction worker, although I mean no offense to the profession as a whole.

Smiles.

Who said anything about a "construction worker"?

Regarding "meaning offense", its more than amply obvious that is all you have come here for. Equally obvious is who has "issues".

I suggest you try this link : http://www.flayme.co...sychology.shtml

G'day

[PFXFV]

Dear wogsinheat,
Now you're getting personal. While I'm far from a Mac expert, I've been using them almost exclusively since 1992. I've converted PC offices to Mac and setup networks that included both platforms. The fact that for six years I administered a Mac network with 12 Apples and 1 PC -- without any training -- shows one thing: Macs are fairly simple to use, even for the non-techie like myself. That's why I use them.

Still, the Mac community can get ridiculous. I'll even include myself in that group. We get defensive when people bring up problems with Macs (there are numerous) or when people point out the positives of Windows (there are numerous). I guess you can call it computer insecurity.

My current office includes one PC for accounting and work on an IE only website. (Gary54 -- I'll use any website that helps me get my work done. Only an absolute fanatic would hurt his/her work -- or pay extra money -- to support one platform over another, unless you own a great deal of stock in that company.) My PC works. Is it is good as my Mac? No, it's better in this case because you can't do this work in OSX. Yes, I said it. PCs can work better than Macs. Get over it.

[PFXFV]

Gary, your writing ability may be subverting your intent.

I hope you visited my suggested websites. In light of your wife-beating comments, the link to projection may be most useful to you. And in closing, thank you for your link to the Art of Flame 101. In regards to #41: It is a conspiracy! We are all against you! I'll leave you to fulfill #49.

Be well, and thank you for engaging in this recreational diversion with me.

[Gary54]

{quote:title=PFXFV wrote:}{quote} Only an absolute fanatic would hurt his/her work -- or pay extra money -- to support one platform over another,

Or someone who takes a broader minded, less self obsessed, self interested view about life. Or someone who puts their money where their mouth is. Or someone whose work is not impeded because they don't let it be impeded. Or someone who has no issues at all with PC's, building or using them, has the certs and doesn't particularly care for the lowest common denominator train of thought and does something about it when possible.

For someone who presumably works without profit motive, you have some rather interesting points of view. But that's your issue, not mine.

I do work for profit. There are no games on this machine. Only business and professional software. Some of which costs far more than your PC or whats on it. They don't give architectural design software away. Nor the investments I make. Accounting software is for ... well ... accountants.

Last comment. G'day

[PFXFV]

Just a word about nonprofit organizations. We are very concerned about money. I want every penny to help the kids and families in our care. I want to honor the generous people who donate funds, and I do that by using that money wisely. I'm not going spend an extra nickel on some fanatical pursuit of computer purity that is based on an absolutely absurd premise that one computer company is more righteous, honest and beneficial to society. If that is a "self-obsessed" view of life, I plead guilty. For those who consider the Apple world morally superior to the PC world, consider this: Bill Gates has -- belatedly -- turned his attention to philanthropic efforts. I know many nonprofit organizations who have received funding from his foundation. Have you heard about the Steve Jobs foundation? That speaks volumes. And here's my last word: We all need to get a life instead of discussing this drivel. On that point, I again plead guilty.

[cpoff]

I think the personal insults here have gone far enough. And since you've all apparently issued your final words, let's move on.