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Opening old Word files with Word 2008
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 10:13 AM
:^0 "And the reason? Apparently these older documents may pose a security threat and opening them in such ways puts you at risk.
Of course Microsoft is happy to let you open them by choosing Open from the File menu, which is somehow more secure because... uh, it's more inconvenient?
Beats the hell out of me. "
This just in from Microsoft Galactic Command ... You will be prevented from OPENING ALL Office documents due to the increased security threat that such documents present. FURTHER you will be prevented from CREATING NEW documents due to the increased security threat of such documents when present in RAM/Virtual Memory.]:)
Hmmm, so basically in the future Microsoft Office will do nothing... sounds familiar...:^0
Of course Microsoft is happy to let you open them by choosing Open from the File menu, which is somehow more secure because... uh, it's more inconvenient?
Beats the hell out of me. "
This just in from Microsoft Galactic Command ... You will be prevented from OPENING ALL Office documents due to the increased security threat that such documents present. FURTHER you will be prevented from CREATING NEW documents due to the increased security threat of such documents when present in RAM/Virtual Memory.]:)
Hmmm, so basically in the future Microsoft Office will do nothing... sounds familiar...:^0
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 11:25 AM
I found the easiest fix for all Office 2008's problems was Office 2004, which I have no problems with.
I had three computers running the Teachers edition of Office 2008. Two were PowerPC (a G4 PB and a G5 Tower) and one was an Intel iMac. In all cases launching alone took significantly longer to launch. Once launched, I found that the object manipulation properties I used in Word 2004 no longer worked in Word 2008 because for some strange reason microsoft decided that all pasted objects would now be treated as images and not allow object manipulation.
I'm not sure if this is a Microsoftism, or a bug, but the strange thing is that when I convert the 2008 document to a 2004 document in Word I can use the tools. Why, however, would I choose a slower starting Word 2008 just so that I can run it in 2004 mode and not have access to Mathtype (which does not work with 2008)?
I'm so completely baffled with this upgrade that I took it off all but one computer until I have no other choices. Its quite depressing really because I had great expectation, pre-ordered, and suffered.
I had three computers running the Teachers edition of Office 2008. Two were PowerPC (a G4 PB and a G5 Tower) and one was an Intel iMac. In all cases launching alone took significantly longer to launch. Once launched, I found that the object manipulation properties I used in Word 2004 no longer worked in Word 2008 because for some strange reason microsoft decided that all pasted objects would now be treated as images and not allow object manipulation.
I'm not sure if this is a Microsoftism, or a bug, but the strange thing is that when I convert the 2008 document to a 2004 document in Word I can use the tools. Why, however, would I choose a slower starting Word 2008 just so that I can run it in 2004 mode and not have access to Mathtype (which does not work with 2008)?
I'm so completely baffled with this upgrade that I took it off all but one computer until I have no other choices. Its quite depressing really because I had great expectation, pre-ordered, and suffered.
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 02:18 PM
"I'm so completely baffled with this upgrade that I took it off all but one computer until I have no other choices. "
Sometimes upgrades are really "upgrades" [aka downgrades]. Office 2008 apparently compares to the infamous Word 6 debacle where many stayed with Word 5.1. IMO Word 5.1 in many ways was the best word processor I have ever used ... until Pages in iWork 08. Pages is pretty good at what it does, I really like and remain hopeful that it will get better and better. Finally the Word and Excel versions in Office 2004 do what I need without much fuss. I like Office 2004, but have not downgraded to Office 2008.
Is this the new Microsoft (same as the old Microsoft) where features are added in, then stripped out in the next Office version, then added back in the next version, then stripped out in the next version ... ad infinitum ... creating a very nice "circle jerk" revenue stream for Microsoft?
Sometimes upgrades are really "upgrades" [aka downgrades]. Office 2008 apparently compares to the infamous Word 6 debacle where many stayed with Word 5.1. IMO Word 5.1 in many ways was the best word processor I have ever used ... until Pages in iWork 08. Pages is pretty good at what it does, I really like and remain hopeful that it will get better and better. Finally the Word and Excel versions in Office 2004 do what I need without much fuss. I like Office 2004, but have not downgraded to Office 2008.
Is this the new Microsoft (same as the old Microsoft) where features are added in, then stripped out in the next Office version, then added back in the next version, then stripped out in the next version ... ad infinitum ... creating a very nice "circle jerk" revenue stream for Microsoft?
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Posted 25 June 2008 - 02:31 PM
I've seen in upgrading our users from 2004 to 2008 we get lots of crashes unless we completely clean out all old office application files including prefs and libs.
A reboot later Office 2008 is safe to install.
However when opening old Word 2004 files the files must immediately be resaved into a new file before working. If one simply saves over the old file 2008 will crash. Sometimes a quick copy all & paste into a new empty file is the only way to move an 2004 Word file into a 2008 document. Horrible...
A few of my users has asked to be downgraded again wich is a pita for us since we really want all users on the same version of sw. I'm moving them to Pages while waiting for Office 2008 getting fixed.
We've had little or no trouble with Office 2004. I really had my hopes that 2008 would work equally good but faster. I was apparently wrong.
A reboot later Office 2008 is safe to install.
However when opening old Word 2004 files the files must immediately be resaved into a new file before working. If one simply saves over the old file 2008 will crash. Sometimes a quick copy all & paste into a new empty file is the only way to move an 2004 Word file into a 2008 document. Horrible...
A few of my users has asked to be downgraded again wich is a pita for us since we really want all users on the same version of sw. I'm moving them to Pages while waiting for Office 2008 getting fixed.
We've had little or no trouble with Office 2004. I really had my hopes that 2008 would work equally good but faster. I was apparently wrong.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 05:52 AM
Sounds like just another day at Micro$oft. The programmers still believe they know what's best for you better than you know yourself. I'm surprised that they don't build in a virus scanner into MS Office to make it even more complicated and bloated.
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Posted 26 June 2008 - 02:27 PM
I'm no MS-fan, but I have little complaint with Word 2008. True, it takes much longer to open and there are some formatting issues that I am still getting used to. On the other hand, I open Word 2004 (and earlier) files all the time without a hitch, and Word 2004 users have no trouble opening my files as long as I put Word 2008 in 'compatability mode'.
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Posted 30 June 2008 - 05:37 AM
My documents in Mac Word 2008 can NOT be opened by people that have 2004 or an earlier versions of MSWord using the Microsoft XP operating system.
The Mac Word 2008 does not seem to be BACKWARD COMPATIBLE.
What do you mean when you say COMPATIBLE?
I did change the settings but it was for only that ONE document.
I did not try it as I saw that it was not a permanent solution.
Is there a way to be PERMANENTLY BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE?
arne
The Mac Word 2008 does not seem to be BACKWARD COMPATIBLE.
What do you mean when you say COMPATIBLE?
I did change the settings but it was for only that ONE document.
I did not try it as I saw that it was not a permanent solution.
Is there a way to be PERMANENTLY BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE?
arne
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