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Apple's MobileMe goes live

#29 User is offline   Londoner Icon

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:01 AM

lileoj said:

I am not interested in Mobileme, SIMPLY becuase it does not support Internet Explorer. Thats the dumbest thing i;ve ever heard. And will prove to be a minor mistake by apple. I am going to http://www.liveoffice.com for 7.00 a month ill have Iphone exchange sync, thats cheaper than the 100 bucks a year and I'll have Outlook Web Access.

1) Explorer works fine with MobileMe, as does Outlook.
2) For $ 7/month at LiveOffice you only get a 100 MB mail box and their maximum is 2 GB (for $12/month). MobileMe is a totally different type of service, with synced calendars, synced address books, web page hosting and remote storage, in addition to email. The the minimum allowance is 20 GB storage space. Of that you can assign the space you want for your emails in fixed blocks. In comparison, LiveOffice is a rip-off.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:14 AM

MobileMe goes live… but is found to be on life support. Seriously, this service is nearly dead from my point of view. I was finally able to get into the web apps this morning… briefly, before I got kicked out and have had a hell of a time getting back in. It's so slow its pretty much unusable in its current state. What I did see of it I liked. I just hope Apple gets this all worked out very soon.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:23 AM

How is Entourage sync acquired? Is it natively working or does it take some 3rd party stuff? Can you sync Entourage and iCal and Address Book with your devices? That'd be sweet!
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:26 AM

Any 'push' technology worth the name should initiate the push as soon changes occur in the cloud. If I have to wait for an update every 15 minutes that sucks. More to the point, however, the demo video made it look like it took seconds (certainly less than a minute under the most charitable of interpretations) not 15 minutes.

Since I'm not talking about iPhone I'll ignore your comments on that. Obviously push technology on an iPhone will save battery power and such. But who called that into question? Not me. I don't even have an iPhone.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:30 AM

seems to be up and running again. I had a initial LOOOOONG problem and filed a "complain/query", received a very courteous and informative reply (a reply I really suspected but...had to ask) and now it seems to work i.e. I can upload to my web page (my personal major problem), so these things happen and I appreciate when resolved, specially when replied to in this matter.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:31 AM

This story headline should have an "updated" tag next to it, and should be edited to say:
Apple’s MobileMe goes live... and then suffers a comma.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:15 AM

This has been a horrible week for Apple, and it has only gotten worse with the 3G activation disasters and 2.0 upgrade bricking fiasco.
Attention Macworld: start doing some journalism!! The current articles on your website read like Apple PR and do not reflect reality!! This is quite possibly the worst rollout in Apple's history. To have 36+ hours of downtime for a service that was already overpriced and poor is simply disastrous and is not going to win new customers. It is simply not reliable; why should users pay $99/year for webmail that is subject to this kind of downtime when gmail is free and solid.
To add insult to injury, the 2.0 bricking epidemic is just outrageous. To not build in any way for users to restore their old OS is just unconscionable. These are phones, not iPods Apple! People rely on their phones and their webmail to communicate, and you've broken both for millions of people within a 48 hour period. To the apologists who say "oh, just give them time, there's bound to be problems on the first day" - I say no, that's not right. Apple should do load testing and anticipate the kind of demand they're going to see (it should be obvious). If they can't prepare adequately, then they shouldn't do this kind of rollout. It's extremely unprofessional.
This is disgraceful, and a serious tarnish on Apple's reputation. "It just works," my ass!!
Wake up Macworld - get on the ball and start reporting this!!! The MobileMe crisis is nearly 2 days old now!
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:21 AM

Why is MacWorld pretending that everything is A-OK in the Apple world? Where is the article saying how badly Apple botched this launch, and maybe getting some info from Apple about exactly what's going on (since Apple doesn't seem to want to let its customers know)? Over 36 hours of downtime, and all we get from Apple is "
The MobileMe transition is underway but is taking longer than expected." C'mon, MacWorld, show us some real journalism, not just Apple PR!
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:23 AM

And, even during the periods when Mobile Me is available, I can't access it with Flock. It apparently only supports Safari and Firefox. What's with that? That seems like something Microsoft would do, not Apple!
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:29 AM

It doesn't really work "fine". It lets you in, but there is a warning to the effect that if you choose to enter with IE 7, you will not have full functionality. I confirmed this to be true. I can enter with IE 7 under Windows XP, but in Mail for example, many icons and indicators, such as unread mail, don't show up properly. Drag and drop works, but the cursor doesn't change while dragging, so you're not sure if it will work the first time you drop it on top of an icon. And there are other small problems. It can be used, but it's certainly not fully functional.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:39 AM

No updates for Calendar and Address Book are available for download yet, so who/what is going to push local updates to "clouds" on my mac? How can the service go "live" lacking basic functionality?
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:40 AM

MorrisTheCat said:

It doesn't really work "fine". It lets you in, but there is a warning to the effect that if you choose to enter with IE 7, you will not have full functionality. I confirmed this to be true. I can enter with IE 7 under Windows XP, but in Mail for example, many icons and indicators, such as unread mail, don't show up properly. Drag and drop works, but the cursor doesn't change while dragging, so you're not sure if it will work the first time you drop it on top of an icon. And there are other small problems. It can be used, but it's certainly not fully functional.


I'm sure many will blame Apple for this, but the reality is that IE (various versions) has been significantly lacking in terms of keeping up to date with standards compliance. Of course, with Microsoft's market dominance why should they care? Further, most web sites either dumb down their features or code around IE flaws. With that in mind, I consider it a good thing for services like Mobile Me to expose such weaknesses. It's not like Windows users don't have other options. They can use Firefox or Safari which are both significantly better web browsers in terms of speed, features and standards compliance.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:46 AM

Tuareg said:

No updates for Calendar and Address Book are available for download yet, so who/what is going to push local updates to "clouds" on my mac? How can the service go "live" lacking basic functionality?


I suppose the question is, who says updates to iCal and Address Book are even necessary? Apple isn't going to send updates for Outlook users on Windows, are they? I don't know how it's implemented, but I'd suspect the necessary changes would be linked with Quicktime/iTunes as that's the common software between the Mac and Windows platforms.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:47 AM

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MorrisTheCat said:

> It doesn't really work "fine". It lets you in, but there is a warning to the effect that if you choose to enter with IE 7, you will not have full functionality. I confirmed this to be true. I can enter with IE 7 under Windows XP, but in Mail for example, many icons and indicators, such as unread mail, don't show up properly. Drag and drop works, but the cursor doesn't change while dragging, so you're not sure if it will work the first time you drop it on top of an icon. And there are other small problems. It can be used, but it's certainly not fully functional.

I'm sure many will blame Apple for this, but the reality is that IE (various versions) has been significantly lacking in terms of keeping up to date with standards compliance. Of course, with Microsoft's market dominance why should they care? Further, most web sites either dumb down their features or code around IE flaws. With that in mind, I consider it a good thing for services like Mobile Me to expose such weaknesses. It's not like Windows users don't have other options. They can use Firefox or Safari which are both significantly better web browsers in terms of speed, features and standards compliance.


I agree with you and was not trying to imply that this was Apple's fault. The message clearly states that IE7 does not support proper standards of Web 2.0 apps, and of course we already know this. I was simply pointing out that those who claim IE7 works fine need to take another look. It's not fully functional. Not that I care at all. I never really use Windows and IE. If I need to check my .Mac mail in a browser, I do it through GMail, because I have all my .Mac mail forwarded to a GMail account. So even if I'm on a PC, I can still get my mail no problem.
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