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Review: iPhone 3G

#29 User is offline   Jason Snell Icon

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 08:59 AM

jedimacfan said:

It was bad enough to see Steve Jobs claim 3G was almost as fast as "Wi-Fi" let alone Macworld. Wi-Fi isn't a speed, it's a way to connect to the Internet without cables.


3G isn't a speed either, it's a way to connect to the Internet without cables.

I guess I could have been wordier and said "3G on the iPhone 3G is nearly (but not quite) as fast as Wi-Fi on the iPhone 3G." But I assumed most people would understand what I meant.

Of course Wi-Fi speeds vary on different devices. The point was to compare Wi-Fi speeds on the iPhone 3G to 3G speeds on the iPhone 3G.

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 09:11 AM

Thanks for the link Dalegattis, i was getting really tired of the sad little ringtones and Apple don't seem to take any notice of us in the UK. Now my phone sounds fab - I just need someone to call!!!
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#31 User is offline   jedimacfan Icon

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 10:37 AM

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jedimacfan said:

> It was bad enough to see Steve Jobs claim 3G was almost as fast as "Wi-Fi" let alone Macworld. Wi-Fi isn't a speed, it's a way to connect to the Internet without cables.

3G isn't a speed either, it's a way to connect to the Internet without cables.

I guess I could have been wordier and said "3G on the iPhone 3G is nearly (but not quite) as fast as Wi-Fi on the iPhone 3G." But I assumed most people would understand what I meant.

Of course Wi-Fi speeds vary on different devices. The point was to compare Wi-Fi speeds on the iPhone 3G to 3G speeds on the iPhone 3G.


I never said you had to be wordier, I just ask that you educate your readers. You might take the time to explain your Wi-Fi connection speed, or what 3G actually means. You know, instead of taking criticism personally.
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 10:57 AM

I haven't seen any mention of it but does the GPS also list your lat/lon coordinates or does it only work on the map program? I would like to use it with a topo map since the places I need a GPS aren't on street maps.
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 09:28 PM

First, let me just say that I am an Apple fanatic who converted his entire company to Mac from PC starting in September 2006. I was counting down the days until I scrapped my Blackberry Curve for the NEW iPhone 3G.
Well, they say THREE strikes and you’re out, but how about SEVEN for the new iPhone?
1. Weight - too heavy, feels like a brick in my pocket
2. Battery life - 3G chip sucks too much juice, lasts until 1pm daily for me
3. Keyboard – to me its a nightmare staring at the glass praying I don’t hit the wrong key (despite auto type)
4. Contacts – takes forever to scroll down contacts as there's no keypad
5. Voice Dialing – there is NONE, so very difficult to dial when you’re driving.. Sensitive keys
6. Speakerphone – very weak compared to the Curve’s larger speaker
7. Service – first time I’ve had repeated dropped calls in years vs T-Mobile's amazing GSM service
And so yeah.... the battery was just the start for me. And so I'm off to the Apple store to return my new iPhone only to wait for the new BB Bold with a real keyboard. If the battery life is also poor, then I stick with the Curve until they get it right. But I will note that I'm buying a MacBook Air to allow the on-the-fly surfing and intensive file viewing in place of the iPhone.
An Apple Fan (Regardless)
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 11:34 AM

First, chill out k2director. I think your to-do list is so full you are losing it. I don't know Jason Snell or anyone at Macworld but do value their coverage and "bribery" is way over the top.

Second, check out OmniGroup's OmniFocus. It is an excellent to-do application available for the iPhone and will sync with the same on a Mac. It even syncs with the to-do list in iCal but as you already recognize, iCal has limited to-do functionality.
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 12:07 PM

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{quote:title=magic_wire wrote:}
Thank you for this good review.
I'm still with my 2G iphone and with the new software release I hoped for some fixes. Well, they are still there:

- calculator: still very basic.

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I have neither an iPhone nor an iPhone 3G, so can't check this, but didn't Steve Jobs demonstrate a more-than-basic calculator on the iPhone 3G, available by turning the phone from portrait to landscape mode?
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 01:35 PM

Re: Review: Iphone 3G
Does anyone know if a story off of the internet can be saved to the iPhone? Can the same item be transferred from a Mac OSX to the iPhone. I have a Palm Pilot which I can sync to my MacBook and copy opera lyrics to save on the Palm for later study and memorization or use in blackout situations backstage.
Does anyone have any suggestions as I would like to have one device and not two.
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 04:14 PM

As a business user, I'm really pleased with the new Exchange compatibility.
But I rely on my current cell phone as a broadband modem when I travel. My understanding is that Apple and/or ATT do not allow the iPhone 3G to be used as a broadband modem for my laptop.
If so, it's a "dealbreaker" for me. I love the user interface of the iPhone... but absolutely need to use the device as a laptop modem.
If Apple and ATT won't allow this... I'll sadly stay with a competitive phone and service provider.
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 03:36 AM

I completely agree with the mentioned cons. It is quite unbelievable that the software people of Apple have not been able to put the copy-paste function into the iPhone software. Quite unbelievable. Not to mentioned the other missing nine functions.

But there are some more cons:

1. Batteries.
You can not change batteries yourself! An astonishing lack of usability. This is a piece of cake on my SE P1i. So why hasn't Apple been able to implement this? This quality would have increased the value of iPhone many times.

2.Monopolistic ideology.
I dislike the consumer hostile politics of Apple concerning who is allowed to carry the telephone signals. In Norway this business is given to one company, and one company only. In Norway we call this a monopoly.
a.This is not in accordance with our Norwegian consumer laws. (Neither the Italien I have noticed). The idea of free competition is seriously breached.
b. Apple hinders the consumer in his free choice of a carrier deliverer. It is called no-competition-here-folks.

This ideology of Apple smells not good at all. There is an urgent need for a paradigm shift.

3.The same ideology appears in other qualities of the iPhone:
a.You are locked to iTune.
b.There is no Flash Player function in Safari making many web pages unreadable.
c.You can not easily access YOU OWN hard disk on the iPhone. Or does it still belong to Apple?

I think that the main problem with Apple, and with iPhone, is not the capabilities of the software engineers . The problem is more serious. It is the ruling ideology of Apple of wanting to have control over everything, including its consumers. I believe this ideology will be Apple's downfall, if it is not changed.

I have the "old" iPhone. No new iPhone for me before things have changed!
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 12:35 PM

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1. Batteries.
You can not change batteries yourself! An astonishing lack of usability.


Seems like there is a solution for everything - also for the iPhone. Found this through Gruberʼs site and I think it looks well and it is actually a better solution than swapping batteries, in my humble opinion (a sworn enemy of stupid acronyms:):

http://richardsolo.c...PROD&ProdID=264

So, can we await a solution to the Bluetooth-problem as well? Stereo? Use it as a modem? Transfer files?

A little later: We did not have to wait long. Here is at least a solution for the stereo - I hope:

http://mobile.brando.com.hk/proddetail.php?prodid=03476

A disclaimer: macwilf is in no way affiliated with the above mentioned companies, nor does he owns shares in them:)
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 02:06 PM

Great write-up. As a first time iPhone owner/user, I agree with everything mentioned. The camera on my year old Samsung A707 was better than the camera on the iPhone, and the lack of MMS is absolutely ridiculous. Why would Apple make the decision to exclude that feature from such a great phone??? Makes NO sense to me. That is really the only complaint I have.. I can deal with the other 'issues' (copy/paste, voice dialing, bluetooth)... they really need to do something about the MMS. Apple - can you hear me now?
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 11:52 PM

Hi,
Many thanks for your suggestions. Seems like an interesting and useful device this charger.
Though it is a pity that the total cost for me will be near 100 USD. But then again, the USD is weak these days.

By the way cal_gecko, and concerning MMS on iPhone, the Swedish SwirlyMMS (www.swirlyspace.com) is just great! They have certainly done a great job ? for Apple. And for me.

And yes - it is an excellent review.
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Posted 18 July 2008 - 12:05 AM

cal_gecko said:

I can deal with the other 'issues' (copy/paste, voice dialing, bluetooth)... they really need to do something about the MMS. Apple - can you hear me now?



I am sorry - but I can not deal with that.
My PDA is a tool for my businesses, and I am very much dependent indeed one features like these.
Shame on Apple!
And they do not hear you.
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