[suisunca]

This why-is-it-doing-this IP3G behaviour is the norm for Windows-based gizmos -- we in the Mac world are fortunate we only see it occasionally. I've lost more hair from screaming at relatives' PCs when they produce some ".dll not found" messages than from age or genetics. "You are connected to the internet; go get the damn file from your Microsoft servers if you know it is missing!", I yell each time at the offending machine. I admire Rob's patience at multiple hours-long syncs just so he can pin down the cause for us, his readers. Much gratitude, and all that. Yet, this is the same griffman who, just last week, was convinced he was going to wait it out on the 2.0 upgrade because he did not want to lose the abilities of his jailbroken phone. Go figure!

[pminich]

Is anyone having a problem installing programs on their phone?
I am finding that for some programs iTunes throws a message that the application could not be found and was not installed. These apps were downloaded to iTunes and can be found with the show in finder command with no problem.

[AlanStall]

OK Thanks, I'm not crazy. I've gone through the exact same senario. Sometimes it takes forever sometimes minutes. I've always taken it off after 15-20 min. I thought it had to do with the fact that one of the Apps I use Pocketpedia has over 1GB of data associated with it. Apparently the problem exists in any case.

A second problem is that I find that the syncing issue can also seem to cause my computer to freeze for a long time.
This may be a "feature" but it is clearly a feature that is implimented in such an absurd way that it is effectively a bug. It make me not want to use my iPhone in a way that it is meant to. I routinely sync my iPhone for my calender through Outlook. I also put video podcasts on and off routinely.

Finally am I correct that iTunes requires you to always sync your downloaded Apss. When I deselected the syncing I got a message that the unsynced Apps would be removed, eventhough I had already done a backup and had nothing new to sync with respect to the Apps.

It may be unrelated but has anyone found that the new v2.0 software is SLOOOOW!! When I open contacts it takes 2-3 seconds before the touch screen will respond to my flick scroll and then it often hiccups halfway through a scroll. Then when I select a contact it can take a couple of seconds to open. This never happened with any iteration of v1.0 software.

Definitely a number of tweaks need to be done ASAP. Looking forward to v2.0.1 an v2.0.2

Alan Stall

[John_Dewar]

I have tons of apps on my phone too, and I'm seeing 45 minute backups. The trouble is a couple of times the backup has been interrupted by calls. Result? My app data is reset! My settings and logins still seem to be there but some of the games lost their high scores and unlocked levels. There also seems to be a lot of instability in launching apps. Generally iTunes 7.7 and iPhone 2.0 are very buggy.

[griffman]

" Yet, this is the same griffman who, just last week, was convinced he was going to wait it out on the 2.0 upgrade because he did not want to lose the abilities of his jailbroken phone. Go figure! "

Actually, I wanted to wait out on the software, but what I wrote about in that article was how I was going to have to upgrade, in order to write about all the 2.0 apps for Macworld.

Overall, the process has gone well, but there are still some things missing from my jailbroken 1.0 phone. Sadly, I don't think we'll ever see them in the store, though, because they dealt with further customizing the iPhone's interface (no more black main window background, folders to collect apps together, etc.). Somehow, I don't think Apple will be approving any such programs for the App Store.

-rob.

[morren]

So, I've got a dozen or so apps, but that's not the sync holdup. Since switching my (original model) iphone to 2.0, it zips through the backup but takes as long as an hour to sync contacts and calendars. I've about 500 contacts and sync only 30 days calendar.

[nhausfoto]

You can cancel the backup by clicking the 'X' in the window. The iPhone will still finish the syncing (bookmarks, podcasts, etc.) and do it in the speedy fashion we were used to.
At least it's that way on my 2g iPhone, running 2.0.
greg

[griffman]

Greg:

I noted that in the article, at the end where I stated my solution (which is exactly that). However, it's far from ideal, because it means that none of my application-specific data is getting backed up. I can restore songs, movies, etc., but not application-specific data.

-rob.

[Olu]

Unfortunately, Mobile Me calendars don't synchronize my subscription calendars. That means I have to disable "push" and sync calendars with iTunes. Like a few above I thought 5 minute back ups were absurdly long. I've got 39 applications and will be very unhappy if back ups go to 20-30 minutes.

[trekker10000]

an even worse problem is that i'm 75% of the way through one of those heinous 2 hour backups and someone calls me, interrupting the backup, which starts all over again. aaarrrggh!!!!!!!

[Dan Frakes]

trekker10000 said:

an even worse problem is that i'm 75% of the way through one of those heinous 2 hour backups and someone calls me, interrupting the backup, which starts all over again. aaarrrggh!!!!!!!

I've had the same thing happen. I've also had phone calls interrupt application installs via iTunes -- and iTunes has locked up and the phone has rebooted afterwards.

[Dan Frakes]

pdmarsh said:

Since synching is now wireless for Contacts, Calendars, Bookmarks, why plug into your Mac at all, UNLESS you want to do a backup?

Multiple app installs, podcast updates, music/video syncing, etc. Not to mention that not everyone has a Mac.com/MobileMe account.

[RonAnnArbor]

Hmm...a few thoughts....first, the backup is for the apps themselves -- it only takes a long time the first time you do it and then a few seconds thereafter...
It takes 10 times as long to do a backup if you purchase your apps over WIFI rather than directly on your iTunes on your desktop, since it has to backup the entire program, not just your settings. Don't do it if you don't want to wait -
Also, it takes several minutes to backup every new program -- don't add 10 at the same time.
And finally -- if you really don't care about the settings for your games and the levels you achieve, just touch the X next to the bar and it will skip ahead to the sync as usual. If you purchased your games etc via iTunes rather than the App Store wirelessly, all your games are safe on your computer and will reinstall if you have to do a backup.

[trekker10000]

QUOTE: "Hmm...a few thoughts....first, the backup is for the apps themselves -- it only takes a long time the first time you do it and then a few seconds thereafter..."

that hasn't been my experience. i get the 1 hour - 2 hour backups every day without adding or deleting any apps whatsoever. i wish what you posted was true.. but it's not for me.