Apple announces special event September 9
#18
Posted 02 September 2008 - 10:04 AM
Let's say tomorrow the flying car is available for main-stream purchase and is safe, and anyone that could drop $50K on it could own it and fly anywhere.
Y'all would be the people complaining about a left-blinker glitch. No doubt, the glitch needs to be fixed, and there's no doubt the flying car company would know it needs to be fixed, but y'all would complain.
Forget the fact the car frakkin flies. No, no, we've just now come to "expect" our cars to fly. We just can't get excited about this flying car company anymore, not with that left-blinker glitch and all.
I'm actually responding in a non-fanboy manner, which is to say, yes Apple needs to fix some things, but no it's not a huge deal. And it's remarkable how you've come to expect and take for granted something you literally couldn't do before September-ish of just last year!
Oh well, it's clear y'all are the fanboys who just can't seem to get Apple to make the exact product you want. I would suggest since the only company pushing the envelope is not catering to your needs, that instead of whining, you start your own company to make the products you need and think everyone else needs. It's really that simple.
Y'all would be the people complaining about a left-blinker glitch. No doubt, the glitch needs to be fixed, and there's no doubt the flying car company would know it needs to be fixed, but y'all would complain.
Forget the fact the car frakkin flies. No, no, we've just now come to "expect" our cars to fly. We just can't get excited about this flying car company anymore, not with that left-blinker glitch and all.
I'm actually responding in a non-fanboy manner, which is to say, yes Apple needs to fix some things, but no it's not a huge deal. And it's remarkable how you've come to expect and take for granted something you literally couldn't do before September-ish of just last year!
Oh well, it's clear y'all are the fanboys who just can't seem to get Apple to make the exact product you want. I would suggest since the only company pushing the envelope is not catering to your needs, that instead of whining, you start your own company to make the products you need and think everyone else needs. It's really that simple.
#19
Posted 02 September 2008 - 10:05 AM
Ilgaz said:
Hello,
I have paid $170 for Leopard family license and expect it to perform equal or better than Tiger on same machine.
There is no reason to mock other people's posts as OUR issues are none of your business.
Let them release a new toy then.
I have paid $170 for Leopard family license and expect it to perform equal or better than Tiger on same machine.
There is no reason to mock other people's posts as OUR issues are none of your business.
Let them release a new toy then.
I understand your frustration... but I haven't had many problems with Leopard. I've generally found the performance to be better than Tiger, especially Mail and Spotlight. I'm also running it on fairly new Intel Core 2 Duo machines (2.33gHz MacBook Pro and 2gHz iMac, both with 2GB of RAM). What few problems I had initially were rectified by an erase and install instead of an upgrade.
Are the problems with Leopard mostly with PPC processors? I'm not judging, by the way, I'm just asking.
#22
Posted 02 September 2008 - 10:26 AM
I don't take issue with all the iPod and iPhone developement.
I do take issue with a computer company that seems to be ignoring two key desktop systems - the Mac Pro and the Mac Mini. The Mac Pro hasn't been touched in 9 months and even the changes made 9 months ago were relatively minor, in terms of performance. The languishing Mac Mini, which is so perfect for so many of the Mac users I support hasn't seen any real change in 15 months or so. A bit lame given the pace of improvements to the iMac and MacBook lines of computers.
Maybe Apple wants to be more of a consumer electronics company, and I have no issue with expansion in that direction, but not at the expense of forgetting their history as a computer/software company - one whose track record with user experience has earned it's spot at the top with it's consumer electronics. Let's be sure it does so with it's Mac Pros and Mac Mini systems, too.
I do take issue with a computer company that seems to be ignoring two key desktop systems - the Mac Pro and the Mac Mini. The Mac Pro hasn't been touched in 9 months and even the changes made 9 months ago were relatively minor, in terms of performance. The languishing Mac Mini, which is so perfect for so many of the Mac users I support hasn't seen any real change in 15 months or so. A bit lame given the pace of improvements to the iMac and MacBook lines of computers.
Maybe Apple wants to be more of a consumer electronics company, and I have no issue with expansion in that direction, but not at the expense of forgetting their history as a computer/software company - one whose track record with user experience has earned it's spot at the top with it's consumer electronics. Let's be sure it does so with it's Mac Pros and Mac Mini systems, too.
#23
Posted 02 September 2008 - 10:36 AM
I have been an apple convert from about 2 years ago and loving it!! Sure, there are bugs - show me one company releasing bug free, innovative, cutting edge IT technology in such a broad range of products and 100% customer satisfaction? Expectation and technology is moving at an extraordinary rate - and all we can do is whinge about those who try to deliver the goods??
As always, it is so easy to focus on negatives and ignore the positives. Why is it you rarely see anyone say " such and such is buggy but I really love the ...".
I got the 3g iPhone - yep - has a few known issues but it is 1000% better to use than any phone I have ever had - period.
I applauded the innovators - keep it coming.
As always, it is so easy to focus on negatives and ignore the positives. Why is it you rarely see anyone say " such and such is buggy but I really love the ...".
I got the 3g iPhone - yep - has a few known issues but it is 1000% better to use than any phone I have ever had - period.
I applauded the innovators - keep it coming.
#24
Posted 02 September 2008 - 10:41 AM
I actually agree with you MacKayaker on the Mac mini side of things. I do wish they would do a couple of things. Lower the price point back down to the original, which I thought was sub-$500. 'Cause I thought that was the whole point really, a Mac that competed with sub-$500 PCs. That would be a fairly easy thing to do. Now, on my wish list for the Mac mini, but certainly not as easy as a price adjustment, is I wish it would become the same exact size of the Apple TV, height wise. And also they should make an Apple branded DC to DC power supply for it, and certify it for warranty use in the car! I know, I'm dreaming...
Also, wish they would also make Front Row 3 just like Apple TV Take 2 interface. That should be fairly easy.
Heck, I wish they would add a DVD drive to the Apple TV, not to watch movies, but to only rip them. With 5.1 surround, and best Apple TV picture quality available, rip them right to the Apple TV for consumption and syncing back to Mac or PC.
'Course the studios would never go for that unless there was a way to make DVDs rip-once and then not be rippable again??? And a way for Apple to please the studios with the rip-once video being DRM'd (even though I hate DRM, but it just won't happen with Movies/TV shows otherwise) to whatever Apple ID / iTunes account the Apple TV is set up for... HMMMM....
Now I know iTunes has movies for rent / sale and really they have a decent enough collection relative to competing services. But if the Apple TV included a DVD drive for rip-once, watch forever, capability I could actually see the Apple TV replacing the DVD player as the most common device for movie watching. Eventually, every movie will be available via Apple TV / iTunes and this won't matter, but in the interim this would be amazing.
Also, wish they would also make Front Row 3 just like Apple TV Take 2 interface. That should be fairly easy.
Heck, I wish they would add a DVD drive to the Apple TV, not to watch movies, but to only rip them. With 5.1 surround, and best Apple TV picture quality available, rip them right to the Apple TV for consumption and syncing back to Mac or PC.
'Course the studios would never go for that unless there was a way to make DVDs rip-once and then not be rippable again??? And a way for Apple to please the studios with the rip-once video being DRM'd (even though I hate DRM, but it just won't happen with Movies/TV shows otherwise) to whatever Apple ID / iTunes account the Apple TV is set up for... HMMMM....
Now I know iTunes has movies for rent / sale and really they have a decent enough collection relative to competing services. But if the Apple TV included a DVD drive for rip-once, watch forever, capability I could actually see the Apple TV replacing the DVD player as the most common device for movie watching. Eventually, every movie will be available via Apple TV / iTunes and this won't matter, but in the interim this would be amazing.
#26
Posted 02 September 2008 - 11:08 AM
I can give 2 examples both related to graphics drivers of Leopard.
1) A huge simulation game I play have 50-60 fps on Tiger (nvidia 6600,quad G5,4.5 gb ram) which is all OK for me while Leopard has 10 FPS-12 FPS . I have reported it (of course), Apple was interested a bit and dropped interest. Every OS X update, especially graphics update, I run it with my hopes and I see the same situation.
2) Every progress bar on OS X (that aqua progress bar) means WindowManager process will eat 40% of CPU (I got 4 cores, imagine single cpu!) and may hit 1.2 GB on long processes like iPhoto thumbnail cache update or disk utility. I reported it too of course.
Issue is, I can't contact Nvidia about these problems as Apple is the graphics card driver developer (officially), all I get is some template from Bangalore ;)
You would say: "Well, say you got fooled and go back to Tiger". Here is the issue: The other stuff on Leopard works PERFECT, way better. Especially multi threaded spotlight etc. finally makes use of my 4 processors.
As a person who still politely reports issues and offer any help to every developer reporting issues, you can imagine my frustration.
1) A huge simulation game I play have 50-60 fps on Tiger (nvidia 6600,quad G5,4.5 gb ram) which is all OK for me while Leopard has 10 FPS-12 FPS . I have reported it (of course), Apple was interested a bit and dropped interest. Every OS X update, especially graphics update, I run it with my hopes and I see the same situation.
2) Every progress bar on OS X (that aqua progress bar) means WindowManager process will eat 40% of CPU (I got 4 cores, imagine single cpu!) and may hit 1.2 GB on long processes like iPhoto thumbnail cache update or disk utility. I reported it too of course.
Issue is, I can't contact Nvidia about these problems as Apple is the graphics card driver developer (officially), all I get is some template from Bangalore ;)
You would say: "Well, say you got fooled and go back to Tiger". Here is the issue: The other stuff on Leopard works PERFECT, way better. Especially multi threaded spotlight etc. finally makes use of my 4 processors.
As a person who still politely reports issues and offer any help to every developer reporting issues, you can imagine my frustration.
#27
Posted 02 September 2008 - 11:26 AM
I am not a whiner. But I do have ample evidence that Apple is ignoring many bugs in Leopard, not providing a headless product in between the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro, concentrating all focus on appliances and not their main product line.
There is a reason why people are clamoring for a Hackintosh. Rather than litigating the answer away, they should answer the need with a configurable, inexpensive enclosure that will replace every PC box on the planet that will run cross-platform.
Here is what will probably occur...
iPhone 3G was a big success.
MobileMe has been fixed (no really)
Price break in iPhone Touch and higher mem models
New iTunes interface that ruins what worked great before. New icon color!
Yawn... OK, here is what would excite me...
AppleTV that downloads Netflix and records external reception.
Half-Height Mac Pro
Drive upgradeable Time Capsule case
A bare-bones, Apple-ready enclosure (you supply the CPU and cards) - Certain death ot all Hackintosh wannabees.
There is a reason why people are clamoring for a Hackintosh. Rather than litigating the answer away, they should answer the need with a configurable, inexpensive enclosure that will replace every PC box on the planet that will run cross-platform.
Here is what will probably occur...
iPhone 3G was a big success.
MobileMe has been fixed (no really)
Price break in iPhone Touch and higher mem models
New iTunes interface that ruins what worked great before. New icon color!
Yawn... OK, here is what would excite me...
AppleTV that downloads Netflix and records external reception.
Half-Height Mac Pro
Drive upgradeable Time Capsule case
A bare-bones, Apple-ready enclosure (you supply the CPU and cards) - Certain death ot all Hackintosh wannabees.
#28
Posted 02 September 2008 - 11:51 AM
At this point in time, it is doubly important for Apple to mind the OS and computer divisions. The ipod-iphone halo is causing many people to buy an Apple computer for the first time and that will be a once in a lifetime opportunity for Apple to gain real OS marketshare. It won't happen again. That being said, I think the MBP I have now is the BEST computer I've ever owned bar none and I own/owned alot of computers including both Macs and PCs. The condescending tv ads I could without though.



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