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Apple promises fewer dropped calls with iPhone 2.1

#15 User is offline   mkett2008 Icon

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Posted 09 September 2008 - 11:24 AM

Safari crashing on iPhones and iPods is the issue, not on any of the laptops or desktops.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 11:29 AM

Here's one for you, try the "reply" link rather than expanding this and all the other threads as you are.


The demographics studies take everything you mention into account. The firms collecting, tabulating and analyzing that data have been at it for many years and they have it down to a science. You, on the other hand, are basing your wild speculation on your "gut feeling" and would be hard pressed to make any argument which contradicts that data. Sure your statments sound good to somebody that doesn't have a clue, but to anybody else, you sound like a curmudgeon.



Just how much of this "marketing aimed at kids" are you exposed to? How much of the marketing do you see on Nickelodeon or the Disney channel. You do realize that's the demographic you're claiming is being targeted. Do you sit and watch SpikeTV, MTV and G4 all day? I doubt that you have much exposure to it at all. Since that's where quite a bit of the video game marketing is being broadcast I'd be very interested in knowing what about the marketing is aimed at "kids". Please elaborate, as you've clearly got a handle on reality...
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 11:50 AM

What about Flash support? That would have been a welcome announcement as it stands, it's one of the systems glaring flaws
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 11:52 AM

fergy said:

I have never understood folks having Safari Crash.

I am on a G5 2 x 2.66 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
3 GB 667 MHz DDR2 FB-Dimm

Leopard 10.5

Use for business every day. Haven't had Safari Crash more than 2 times in last two years.

Wonder what is different about your setup than mine?

Curious!!!!!


The hardware here is iPhone/iPod touch, not a computer.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 11:53 AM

ultramagnetic74 said:

What about Flash support? That would have been a welcome announcement as it stands, it's one of the systems glaring flaws


That will happen about the same time Microsoft announces Zune for the Mac OS.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 11:59 AM

DisabledTrucker said:

Actually the marketing is towards kids otherwise the vast majority of the games wouldn't be produced for 13+! If you think that adults are the majority of people buying the games, who do you think they are buying them for themselves?!? Get real! They are buying them for their kids primarily and that's the ones who's kids are too lazy to go out and mow yards or do paper routes or some other activity to get money when their parents can't afford to give them allowances every week


Sorry, but that is wrong. The gamer audience is not what you expect it to be. The gamer audience does include kids, but young adults now make up the majority - the games touted in the event today are those geared at young adults - not children.

I'll bet you think all animated shows and movies are for kids too.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 12:03 PM

Well, I'm an adult professional, and I hang out with many other adult professionals, and we all like games a great deal. I also mow my own lawn.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 12:07 PM

Amen. Just switched from Sprint and cannot believe how poor the signal from ATT is. People dog Sprint but I've had nothing but frustration with the level of service from ATT throughout my city. I also miss my Treo. I have no idea when the exclusive agreement with ATT is up but I'll be one of the first to switch. For the life of me, I cannot understand why so many people have ATT if they don't have an iPhone. But if this new update fixes things, I'll be a little happier but my wife has a regular phone and her service blows too. "More bars in more places" must mean one bar everywhere, but 4 bars nowhere.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 12:15 PM

I just wish my JEEP would stop crashing....
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 12:17 PM

warlock7 said:

The 2.0.2 update was supposed to have implemented the new power algorithm which did reduce the number of dropped calls. I really wonder if there's going to be any improvement to what's already been done regarding this particular issue.

Considering the number of people still complaining after updating to 2.0.2, I doubt it helped much. The thing is, if iPhone had 100 % reliability, they'd still have dropped calls because AT&T is just like that. My Nokia isn't so dependent on software that an unavailable upgrade to it would stop AT&T from dropping calls.

In fact, AT&T had to change their advertising away from "fewest dropped calls" to "more bars in more places (global coverage)" since it just wasn't true.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 12:22 PM

Who made this Apple event into such a HUGE one? Not Apple. They invited a certain number of journalists, nothing more, in emails to those journalists.

They didn't announce it with big fanfare to the media.

They announced what they feel is the proper evolution of the iPod line. Some like the new Nano, some don't.

Some loved the last Nano. Some didn't.

But it wasn't Apple that provided all the hoopla around this event. It was the MEDIA, sites like this, and many people on these sites, who "predicted" so many things that Apple had never even given us a clue would be forthcoming.

New Macs? New iPhones? Just hopeful thinking.

You don't think the iPhone will be updated on a yearly basis in June? That's my opinion on why there was nothing new for the iPhone except updated software.

So, is Apple overplaying its hand, or are people just letting their minds wander and hoping that every Apple event fills every wish they ever had for the particular product(s) they were hoping for?

Do you remember Steve saying that there would be a few of these events this year? Well, the year isn't over yet, is it?

I think Apple is rolling out its products in a more even way throughout the year, with the possible exceptions of WWDC and MacWorld Expo at the beginning of the year.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 12:24 PM

my computer asked me if i wanted to download update 2.1 and i am but i thought it didn't come out until friday
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 12:28 PM

I looking forward for the fix in the iPhone OS that prevents the loss of application data during an update. I have no idea if that fix is in this release.
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Posted 09 September 2008 - 12:29 PM

But what does it do for the iPod touch?
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