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Don't drive iPhone developers away, Apple

#183 User is offline   Glenn_Fleishman Icon

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 06:07 PM

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Glenn_Fleishman said:

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> Just because YOU don't know something doesn't mean that journalists covering the industry who have developed sources and relationships over many years don't happen to know something.

>And just because YOU (the journalists covering the industry) have been

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terribly wrong about Apple in so many ways and so many times doesn't
mean that the truth is what you repeat. YOU don't have the facts
regarding Apple's plans with the Appe Store. YOU don't know precisley
what Apple's rejection reasons are. YOU don't know if they would be
seen to be perfectly justifiable in light of facts YOU don't know.


Oh, I see the problem: we're "the journalists covering the industry"; not Macworld editors and contributors. As MW editors have noted in response to your earlier posts, you're setting up strawmen and then knocking them down.

This is Macworld here, and Jason Snell writing; not a bunch of aggregated journalists.

>YOU

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may come back and tell us it all was "my favorite mistake" in a few
years as Sheryl Crow says, while today calling YOUR critics fanboys,
dudes and pimps. That's some journalism, indeed.


Not me. And not to speak for Macworld, but not Macworld.

Critics aren't fanboys; fanboys are people who refuse to listen to reason, create fake characterizations, and support Apple uncritically.

This is part of your categorical problem, widely demonstrated on this thread.

We are not who you say we are.
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#184 User is offline   Chris Breen Icon

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 06:15 PM

Kontra said:

Just because YOU


Wow, you really need to oil those Y, O, and U keys, they're apparently stuck.

So, how's that "without the strawman arguments, without the blog pimping, tell us why it would be unreasonable for Apple to say 'you may not develop in the following areas' thing going?

Anything?

#185 User is offline   Kontra Icon

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 06:26 PM

> Anything?
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I have already answered that, twice I think, actually in the form a question regarding the legal ramifications of putting unknowable things in writing. None of YOU have bothered to address it. Look it up.
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#186 User is offline   Chris Breen Icon

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 06:28 PM

I'll take that as a pass cuz, y'know, you can't spell that kind of thing out in an NDA.

Seriously, other than having an opinion, do you know anything about this? You understand that there are areas on the iPhone that developers can't go, right? Specific, sandboxed, Don't Tread On Me areas.

Thanks very much for playing.

#187 User is offline   bugsnw Icon

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 07:24 PM

Unbelievable. I don't think there's another angle Chris can come from. It's abundantly clear what Jason wrote in the original article and reasonable minds have agreed. Apple will come around, eventually, perhaps thanks to the gentle prodding of this wonderful internet community.

And a few will STILL be clinging to their......... ideology? Not sure what the word is here.

I've never seen such stubbornness to facts and reason. And I've read and contributed to more than a few boards.

I'm in it now just to see who gets the last word.
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#188 User is offline   Bobapple Icon

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 07:29 PM

Me. Bobapple. I get the last word. I always do.
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#189 User is offline   Chris Breen Icon

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 07:33 PM

Okay, so it's decided. Bobapple gets the last word and... doh!

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Posted 29 September 2008 - 07:37 PM

I will now gracefully bow out of the discussion, since Christopher Breen has chosen to spoil my perfect record. To demonstrate my complete absence of bitterness, I will hang on his every published word.
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Posted 29 September 2008 - 07:44 PM

(nevermind)
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#192 User is offline   Jason Snell Icon

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Posted 30 September 2008 - 03:51 PM

We've been around the bend, and back again, and around again, and back again. I think bugsnw has a perfectly cogent summary of what we've learned here. Thanks to you all for participating. And now, I'm going to let bugsnw get the last word, and close the thread.

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Unbelievable. I don't think there's another angle Chris can come from. It's abundantly clear what Jason wrote in the original article and reasonable minds have agreed. Apple will come around, eventually, perhaps thanks to the gentle prodding of this wonderful internet community.

And a few will STILL be clinging to their......... ideology? Not sure what the word is here.

I've never seen such stubbornness to facts and reason. And I've read and contributed to more than a few boards.

I'm in it now just to see who gets the last word.

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