[ATLTech]

woodyblack said:

The iphone was Dead on Arrival, except for Apple Zealots and other techno morons. The iphone is playing catch up to Windows Mobile phones. Windows Mobile was there 5 years before the geniuses at Apple "created" the smartphone.

First of all you are a TROLL.
http://en.wikipedia....roll_(Internet)
Secondly you are an uninformed bigoted idiot.

Third don't call people that have an opinion on technology 'morons' . We can ALL buy whatever we want and use it, ok retard?



And just to bring you to up speed I have a Windows Mobile device. I have been using Windows mobile before you could spell your own name, dumb ass, so don't go making assumptions about the iPhone you can't backup. I KNOW there is a marked difference between the Iphone and every other competitor and I can prove it with a question.

If if the iPhone is just playing 'catch up' (as you so unintelligibly announced) then why is everyone playing follow the leader, then huh? Why are phone companies scrambling to make the next 'iPhone Killer', eh mr. wizard?



Chew on that while you do your homework, ok? Go gank a Alliance with your stupid Druid on WOW you loser, and leave the technal discussions to the people that know the difference.



Microsoft is even considering dropping Windows mobile completely how is that for 'catch up' dimwit.



The iPhone has made many things better, and it's the future.

[woodyblack]

Wow...Troll, thats imaginative.

First, I was on the team that tested the First Windows Smartphone by Motorola with AT&T when I worked at Microsoft. So I doubt that you ever even touched a Windows powered phone prior to me. Second, while there are some interesting gesture related UI control concepts that Apple has developed, the premise by many that Apple somehow created the concept of smartphones is ridiculous. Third, and finally, Microsoft is NOT dropping Windows Mobile, they are considering a change in names to align with their concept of a single code base for their OSes. The iphone does NOT set the bar, while it is a "neat" toy, it does not provide the open platform for developers that the Windows Mobiles, Blackberries and even Symbian powered phones provide, because of Apple's restrictive controls on their OSes. Now if you want to have a real technical discussion about the merits, I will setup a conference bridge and we can see if you are able to intelligently defend the supposed superiority of the iphone.

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@ woodyblack:

"Wow...Troll, thats imaginative."

If the shoe fits.

"First, I was on the team that tested the First Windows Smartphone by Motorola with AT&T when I worked at Microsoft."

Ah, your underlying motivation is revealed.

"So I doubt that you ever even touched a Windows powered phone prior to me."

You must be so proud. Windows CE, PocketPC, WindowsMobile - a long line of stellar (heh) mobile OSes that Microsoft can't seem to decide what to call. Can't wait to see the iZune Mobile.

"Second, while there are some interesting gesture related UI control concepts that Apple has developed, the premise by many that Apple somehow created the concept of smartphones is ridiculous."

Your implication that anyone says Apple "created the concept of smartphones" is ridiculous. But straw men arguments are always convenient, aren't they.

By the way, it's not Apple's fault that 99% of the smartphones that came before the iPhone sucked rocks.

"Third, and finally, Microsoft is NOT dropping Windows Mobile,"

Of course they aren't. They're busily at work in the Microsoft Labs trying to make WindowsMobile as iPhone-like as possible for their new Zune Phone device. Don't believe me? Wait until WinMo7 and see how similar they are. Just like Vista and the "blue glass" theme, "Aqua." Oh wait, that's the theme Apple originated. My bad. Microsoft's is "Aero." Four letters, starts with an A. My confusion is understandable.

MS folks have absolutely zero original ideas. Fact.

In the meantime, hardware vendors are desperately trying to slap a shiny coat of paint on the rusty carcass that is WinMo6 (TouchFLO) to try to distract consumers from the suckiness that lies beneath.

"The iphone does NOT set the bar, while it is a "neat" toy,"

Yes, the iPhone is a "toy," the iPod is a "toy," the Mac is a "toy." We get it. Everything Apple does is a "toy," whereas everything Microsoft does is serious business. Why, just like that stupid dog that will do tricks for me in XP when all I'm trying to do is find a damned file. Serious stuff, that!

And I can't wait for Microsoft to release its integrated hardware/software "Zune Phone" and watch all you "Microsoft is open and hardware agnostic!" town criers reverse gears with a resounding crunch. Like you did with...the Zune (PlaysForSure? Forget about that!).

You Microsoft apologists are a joke.

Begone, troll.

[woodyblack]

My last reply to your nonsense.

No every Apple product is not a toy, so you attempt at wry humor falls flat. Use Mac G5 Pros in my recording studio, the iphone is the only Mac product I take issue with. The tone of your responses a extremely juvenile, grow up. Have fun with users like this one mac community.

Out.

[ATLTech]

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Wow...Troll, thats imaginative.

Yeah about as imaginative as you calling iPhone users 'techno morons'. Maybe next time you approach it a little differently instead of landing on us like some prepubescent teen hyped up on coke, eh? Yeah, professional courtesy, chump. Your tone was like a 3rd grader, so you might want to improve your writing skills and not start off a sentence by inciting an argument.

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First, I was on the team that tested the First Windows Smartphone by Motorola with AT&T when I worked at Microsoft. So I doubt that you ever even touched a Windows powered phone prior to me.

I am happy for you. Do you want a brownie button? Don't even start comparing your career with mine, loser. At least I have an open mind, yours is still stuck with the same technology, and I don't CARE if you STARTED with Motorola or not. What does that prove, wow you got to be first technology...ooh.. So it sounds like to me you are a tad bitter that your precious technology is being superseded huh? Make room for better technology.

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Second, while there are some interesting gesture related UI control concepts that Apple has developed, the premise by many that Apple somehow created the concept of smartphones is ridiculous.

WGAF who came up with it first? We aren't arguing who did it first, we are saying that iPhone is Better. You however came onto this forum and thought you were going to start come crap and move on.. well wake up, twit. Not going to happen without a challenge. By your argument Ford invented the car and therefore no one has the right to improve the technology, nice try, but there is ALWAYS room for improvement. Apple never once said they invented the 'smartphone', where the hell did you read that? You been reading S. Balmers private email again? Don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see. Apple came out with the new improved version of HOW a phone should be. The PUBLIC apparently likes it, so THEY have an informed opinion, unlike you. I don't remember EVER seeing lines at the store for a Windows mobile device..not even when it WAS popular... That must say something, the Apple iPhone must be the device everyone is looking for. You want to argue semantics take it up with the public that bought 10 million iPhones.. And if you don't like the iPhone keep your SmartPhone for Windows Mobile, no one is stopping you. But don't lambast us for having an opinion about what is better. The PUBLIC has spoken, and you are in the minority. Windows mobile sucks, along with Blackberry and whatever other device you can come up with. The iPhone is the new Future of devices. and your right it's not a Smartphone, that's YOUR interpretation, you don't see it written anywhere that the iPhone is a 'smartphone'. That's the industry word for it, there isn't anything else like it. It is what it is.. BETTER, so putting in the same category as 'smartphone' would be like like saying they want be the same, they don't want to be the same, the iPhone is a BETTER class of phone. Move forwards not backwards.

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Third, and finally, Microsoft is NOT dropping Windows Mobile, they are considering a change in names to align with their concept of a single code base for their OSes.

Oh so now you are a marketing genius, eh? Stick to what you know which is barely nothing. The way things are going, the Palm devices are going to surpass windows mobile... The blackberry is ALREADY #2 on the list behind the iPhone, but maybe you are blind and can't see that..

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The iphone does NOT set the bar, while it is a "neat" toy, it does not provide the open platform for developers that the Windows Mobiles, Blackberries and even Symbian powered phones provide, because of Apple's restrictive controls on their OSes

Yeah that's true. The iPhone does not set the bar, but the people that USE the iPhone do. And the PUBLIC has proclaimed the iPhone to be the one to beat. That's industry talking, that's people talking, and that's technology talking. So you want to argue this point, get your own talk show. Look around you, its a diverse field Microsoft doesn't run the country, Linux is up and coming, Android is a new technology, blackberry is even getting a refresh, Windows Mobile is so 90's, quit living in the past.



Now if you want to have a real technical discussion about the merits, I will setup a conference bridge and we can see if you are able to intelligently defend the supposed superiority of the iphone.

I don't have anything to prove to you, if this forum is too much for you, perhaps you can go back to rebooting your Windows device.. I am sure it's frozen by now. This wasn't a 'discussion', it was a one sided argument by a dimwitted fool that thought he could just mosey on here and figure you would be met by some 12 year old with a MAC. Well you want to argue, I got more! Bring it!

Until then what else you got, cause you are starting to bore me.. -yawn-. You aren't even giving me anything NEW to work with. Next time before you go posting on a forum (where it's apparent you aren't the majority) you might want to take the time to be a bit more insightful rather than 'techno moron's and iPhone is playing catchup, those are OPINIONS not facts.

The facts are iPhone is the #1 PHONE on the market TODAY period. Good luck trying to dispute that. I don't GAF what your little Windows Mobile / Live Messenger says.

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Thank God! That's the most intelligent thing you said all day, I can agree with. Say hi to Puff the magic Diddy for me. Before you bounce, re-read your FIRST post on this forum you punk.

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The tone of your responses a extremely juvenile, grow up. Have fun with users like this one mac community.

You are the one that is 'juvenile' you lose an argument, and all you can do is walk away, what's the matter, no real information? Recording studio, is that what they call half-way houses now? Huh....

[ATLTech]

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You must be so proud. Windows CE, PocketPC, WindowsMobile - a long line of stellar (heh) mobile OSes that Microsoft can't seem to decide what to call. Can't wait to see the iZune Mobile.

Only because 'iCrash' would be too predictable... hehe