Expo: Apple adds productivity features to iWork
#2
Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:30 AM
The iWork.com sounds like an Apple way to charge for what others provide for free once again.
The changes to Pages sound useful. I'd like to see if the changes to Numbers will make it as a semi-useful spreadsheet rather than just used bytes of storage on one's hard drive as the current version is.
The changes to Pages sound useful. I'd like to see if the changes to Numbers will make it as a semi-useful spreadsheet rather than just used bytes of storage on one's hard drive as the current version is.
#3
Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:43 AM
heisetax said:
The iWork.com sounds like an Apple way to charge for what others provide for free once again.
I'd rather my documents be stored somewhere where their contents aren't used to advertise to me and others.
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The changes to Pages sound useful. I'd like to see if the changes to Numbers will make it as a semi-useful spreadsheet rather than just used bytes of storage on one's hard drive as the current version is.
That makes no sense. Trash Numbers if you don't like it. Those who use it every day will keep on using it.
#4
Posted 06 January 2009 - 10:47 AM
I have no idea of what's Apple's vision of productivity in iWork. No database?
Give me a break! Especially when Bento is own by Apple and not adding it to iWork suite is a great mistake. But then again, there are many mistakes evident (17" as glossy screen only, - photographers of the world - unite and press Apple to stop this foolishness - glitz vs quality).
Give me a break! Especially when Bento is own by Apple and not adding it to iWork suite is a great mistake. But then again, there are many mistakes evident (17" as glossy screen only, - photographers of the world - unite and press Apple to stop this foolishness - glitz vs quality).
#8
Posted 06 January 2009 - 11:28 AM
wbarek: the 17" has a matte screen option. Also, why add a database and increase the expense? Currently, you can get iWork + Bento for less than the home version of MS Office. So what's the big deal? And MS Office for home doesn't include a database!
heisetax: i do financial work in Numbers every day. My Excel-using coworkers are jealous of it.
heisetax: i do financial work in Numbers every day. My Excel-using coworkers are jealous of it.
#9
Posted 06 January 2009 - 11:32 AM
wbarek said:
I have no idea of what's Apple's vision of productivity in iWork. No database?
Give me a break! Especially when Bento is own by Apple and not adding it to iWork suite is a great mistake.
Give me a break! Especially when Bento is own by Apple and not adding it to iWork suite is a great mistake.
As it happens, Bento is not owned by Apple. It's owned by FileMaker. Yes, FileMaker is owned by Apple, but that doesn't amount to the same thing, believe it or not. There's a reason Apple went out of their way to reabsorb much of the Claris product line several years ago.
For my part, though, I'm hoping that Numbers '09 finally deals with the terrible performance issues in recalculating formulas and other areas that all prior versions have had. There are some really nice ideas there, but it has so many shortcomings even relative to the AppleWorks spreadsheet module that it's sad.
#11
Posted 06 January 2009 - 11:53 AM
hayesk wrote:
Yes, quite. I suppose "others" means Google. And, of course, the truth is that while Google's services are "free" you pay for them with your data. Now maybe heisetax doesn't mind his data being data-mined. Maybe many of us can live with the thought, albeit probably not without a certain queasiness. But let's not pretend that Google's "free" services don't come at a certain price.
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heisetax wrote:
I'd rather my documents be stored somewhere where their contents aren't used to advertise to me and others.
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The iWork.com sounds like an Apple way to charge for what others provide for free once again.
I'd rather my documents be stored somewhere where their contents aren't used to advertise to me and others.
Yes, quite. I suppose "others" means Google. And, of course, the truth is that while Google's services are "free" you pay for them with your data. Now maybe heisetax doesn't mind his data being data-mined. Maybe many of us can live with the thought, albeit probably not without a certain queasiness. But let's not pretend that Google's "free" services don't come at a certain price.
#14
Posted 06 January 2009 - 12:41 PM
Regarding the charge required for the iPhone app, it could be due to accounting laws since it can be argued that it's billed as part of a software package and an upgrade to that needs to be charged.
Regarding iWork.com ... Frustrating that Apple missed an opportunity to give .Mac some meat. I can understand wanting to keep business separate from personal, but they could have easily put both under the same account. Considering how .Mac is floundering with little to offer over other services I think Apple really made a mistake by entirely separating these. Strange.
Re: iWork.com: "You can use it to access your documents from anywhere in the world."
Hello? .Mac already does this!
And it's Apple who rejects iPhone apps that duplicate existing solutions.
Regarding iWork.com ... Frustrating that Apple missed an opportunity to give .Mac some meat. I can understand wanting to keep business separate from personal, but they could have easily put both under the same account. Considering how .Mac is floundering with little to offer over other services I think Apple really made a mistake by entirely separating these. Strange.
Re: iWork.com: "You can use it to access your documents from anywhere in the world."
Hello? .Mac already does this!
And it's Apple who rejects iPhone apps that duplicate existing solutions.



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