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MorrisTheCat 
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 02:16 PM
>you can indeed replace the hard drive and memory on it yourself, even though the battery isn't user-replaceable.
OK, this makes me feel much better, even though I have no plans now or in the future to purchase this. I just feel better knowing that Apple hasn't completely lost their minds with regards to user upgradable parts in their systems. I would like to se this be easier, but at least its doable.
I assume also that this does not void the warranty? I would hope so if this tidbit came from an Apple employee.
OK, this makes me feel much better, even though I have no plans now or in the future to purchase this. I just feel better knowing that Apple hasn't completely lost their minds with regards to user upgradable parts in their systems. I would like to se this be easier, but at least its doable.
I assume also that this does not void the warranty? I would hope so if this tidbit came from an Apple employee.
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 02:47 PM
So, what makes the HD and memory user-installable and not the battery. I would think that once you get the back off, that would be the only trick? We'll have to wait for the tear-apart photos...
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 02:50 PM
I’m guessing that the hard drive and memory are designed in such a way that you can just release a latch or two or unscrew something and take them out. But if the battery is sealed to the case in some way, I doubt that you can get to it without voiding the warranty (or even damaging your Mac).
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 03:04 PM
Great article, thanks aryayush!
>you don't have to use the screen’s ultra-brightness as an anti-glare shield, itself not very healthy for your eyes.
What?! Is there a health risk in using this screen at maximum brightness? This is the first I've heard that using a MBP could be hazardous to your health! Would you care to explain?
>you don't have to use the screen’s ultra-brightness as an anti-glare shield, itself not very healthy for your eyes.
What?! Is there a health risk in using this screen at maximum brightness? This is the first I've heard that using a MBP could be hazardous to your health! Would you care to explain?
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 03:14 PM
> {quote:title=}{quote}What?! Is there a health risk in using this screen at maximum brightness? This is the first I've heard that using a MBP could be hazardous to your health! Would you care to explain?
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Considering my Dell monitor on its stock settings (brightness at 50%) actually physically hurt my eyes until I reduced it to 20%, I'd say a bright screen just might be unhealthy.
After all, if it hurts, it can't be good, right?
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Considering my Dell monitor on its stock settings (brightness at 50%) actually physically hurt my eyes until I reduced it to 20%, I'd say a bright screen just might be unhealthy.
After all, if it hurts, it can't be good, right?
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 03:22 PM
How does the new 17" display compare to the current 17" display in the macbook pro? Note that in October the 17" macbook pro screen was improved to 1920 x 1200 LED backlight - same specs as the new macbook pro. In other words, if I look at a 17" macbook pro (non-glossy) today at the Apple store is that exactly the same as what you see with the new 17" screen at the macworld expo?
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 03:44 PM
aryayush said:
Update: And, in any case, Apple doesn’t just sell you a 17-inch MacBook Pro battery anyway, so what will you replace it with even if you do manage to get it out somehow?
Don't get caught up in the little details. Big picture - Apple is going to let you open the back of the case and fiddle with RAM and HD without voiding your AppleCare, why don't they just sell you a battery that you can replace yourself? In 3-5 years (remember, that was "up to" 5 years) the Genius Bar is going to be very busy with battery replacements and people who have "real" technical problems are going to have to wait longer. If they want to charge more for the better battery, that's fine. If making it less accessible makes it last longer, that's fine too. But if you can open it and replace upgradeablepartX, why not let you replace expendablepartY?
And besides, give it a year or two and SOMEONE will sell you a battery that will fit in there. You can buy after-market iPod batteries and Apple won't sell you a battery, but they will replace it. I'm not saying it will be as good, but you your point about not being able to have anything to replace it with just seems silly.
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Posted 07 January 2009 - 04:06 PM
I think the fuss is really that the battery isn't swappable. My first WWDC I had my MBP with two batteries, and was still struggling to keep charged and going, swapping dead ones out to the recharging station on the second floor. I'd swap those two batteries for one that lasted 8 hours, though.
The battery is definitely replaceable. Whether it's user-replaceable or not we don't know. I heard that a new battery installed from Apple would be about $175. Don't know if that's true or not.
The battery is definitely replaceable. Whether it's user-replaceable or not we don't know. I heard that a new battery installed from Apple would be about $175. Don't know if that's true or not.
