[webraider]

Schneb said:

>And iMovie 06 provided two ways to edit (timeline and scene) and iMovie 08 just one way--and not a good way for how I edit. And extremely limiting.

I DO understand that it might not be how you are used to editing.. However, I don't understand that it's not really that different from iMovie '06. iMovie '06 kept eveything in a straight line at the bottom of the screen. iMovie '08 keeps everyting in a straight line too (linear) but when it reaches the edge of the window, it continues on the next line like a word processor. Is that what you mean? It still functions like a line though and I have found it so much easier to add things to it.. So much more drag an drop friendly, even for comlex effects or edit so much so that alot of Final Cut Pro people are hoping to see this make it into Final Cut Pro. You can still do fine tune editing in the advanced timeline mode. Logic Pro does this very easy too. When you are zoomed out you don't see much of a time line.. just a line of music.. But you can zoom in to do your fine tuning. I guess I'm trying to encourage you to give '09 a chance with an open mind.. It may not be what you're used to at first, but I bet a couple of months you'll be just as comfortable with it as you were in iMovie '06...

[Philip Michaels]

derkathon said:

Second paragraph:

"...it appears to be a dramatic improvement that even bests iMovie ‘08 in many ways."

Is that meant to be a reference to iMovie '06?

Yes, it's changed now.

[neutrino23]

From the conference I attended it seems you can have unlimited audio tracks (till something crashes). You have one audio track that is the background for the entire movie. After that you start stacking up audio clips attached to video clips. There doesn't seem to be an enforced limit.

[neutrino23]

iMovie 09 looks awesome. The Picture in picture affect also allows you to drop in an image. The image can be repositioned and resized. It looks like no effects are allowed for P in P. You'd have to change a picture to a movie, apply a fade in and fade out and then use that for the P in P. Anyway, you can do it. This will be great for my teaching videos.
iPhoto also gained some features not mentioned in the keynote. There is now a navigation widget that shows where you are looking when you zoom in on an image. You can drag that box around to move the view.
Phil showed that a slide show can be sent to the iPhone or Touch. Actually, you can export a slide show in a variety of resolutions as a .M4V file so these can be shared easily.
Keynote gained some enhancements to the presenter display. It looks like Flash export was dropped, probably because there were problems with it.

[webraider]

neutrino23 said:

iMovie 09 looks awesome. The Picture in picture affect also allows you to drop in an image. The image can be repositioned and resized. It looks like no effects are allowed for P in P. You'd have to change a picture to a movie, apply a fade in and fade out and then use that for the P in P. Anyway, you can do it.

You might be able to achieve the same result by applying the effect in iPhoto. Then using the photo in iMovie. It looks like some of the effects in iMovie are similar some of the ones in iPhoto.

[paulthrop]

Sounds good, but the biggest problem with '08 was the lack of quality when sending HD video to iDVD.
Has this problem been sorted out?

[yakuzah]

It's interesting you mention exporting to DVD and Quicktime because that is the very thing that Apple never fixed in iMovie 08. Sucking in DV video editing and then exporting to DVD always produced appaling video quality as there is something broken within iMovie08 which prevents the production of a solid high quality DVD.

Hence why I have been using iMovie 06 HD for the last 18 months, waiting and praying Apple will fix the problem, which they never have!

So I am once again going to dig deep into my pockets and buy iLife 09 and I bet money that the problem that existed for SD video imported from DV Damcorder still exists.

Apple seem to believe that everyone is running round with 500 dollar HD 1080p camcorders, Well guess what, were not. And whilst I am fully suportive of future proofing your software to support new features, they also have to work with what we have now too!

[mvallance]

Apple now needs to develop a new iMovie - one that is so simple to use that teachers can focus on teaching WITH the technology and not ABOUT the technology. iMovie 1 to HD helped teachers and students so much to focus. iMovie 8 and 9 is just too complex. We will stay with iMovie HD at our institute. I don't see youngsters creating fantastic movies with 08 like they did when the original iMovie was released. I thought education was in Apple's genes :-/

[WintersNight]

if you're a prosumer than Apple didn't design this with you in mind. Final Cut Express exists for a reason. as far as "glitz" themes and titles are exactally the sort of thing apple should have added it. the majority of people out there want an easy way to organize the clips of their kids school play, and a fast way to cut it together and make it look fancy.

your attitude is like criticizing a Ford Focus for not being able to go from 0-60 in under 4 seconds. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO DO!!!!!

[tallscot]

WilfredLaurier said:

Any word on 64-bit support. With Snow Leopard inbound this year, now would be the perfect time to add 64-bit support to the iLife suite.

It's using the GPU, so I think 64-bit support is moot.

[fabbo]

I'm very confused. Do I have to keep a separate partition with iMovie '06, in order to go back and alter anything started, but not finished in that version? I already have a a 10.4 partition to keep Final Cut Express HD v. 3.5 in a version that still allows you to use what I believe was called Soundtrack and LiveType, which were rendered unusable in v.10.5 and FCE HD v. 4.0. This is ridiculous.

I am getting ready to purchase a Sony HD camcorder and I loathe being limited in what I can accomplish. Whether I use all the bells and whistles or not, the one time I need them, I want readily at my disposal.

Someone please tell me, if you were starting to work with HD video, today - and wanted as many features as possible - would you use '06, '08, '09 or FCE-HD v.3.5 with Soundtrack and LiveType or FCE HD 4.0 with those features stripped out? Someone, anyone - PLEASE!!! - Frank

[Howmanoid]

Hey Frank. I edit HD in both iMove and FCP all the time and there's no need for separate partitions. They will both happily coexist on the same partition. The intermediate formats they use to store video download from your camera can be different so you will want to config each program to use a different folder for temp storage. Having said that there are ways to share footage between them but that's probably out of scope for this thread.

Like you I hate being limited which is why I ditched iMove 08 and went back to the previous version. The program that's right for you is going to depend on two things. What you want to be able to do with the video and how familiar you are with the more technical side of video production. If you are looking for something easy to use that will give you good looking results without a steep learning curve then I'd go with iMovie 09. If you really need to be able to control your footage on a frame-by-frame basis and are OK with having to pick up some of the technical side of production then FCE/P is going to give you the control you're looking for, just keep in mind that it doesn't have the "canned" effects that iMovie offers, you'll have to learn to apply filters and effects to your clips in a more manual way.

Hope that helps...

[parlour]

iMovie ?06 (HD) and iMovie ?08/?09 will happily coexist in your app folder.

You can even download iMovie ?06 for free if you own iLife ?08. I do not know if this will still be possible with iLife ?09.

However, as long as you have your old iLife DVD there is no problem with installing both the old and the new iMovie version.

[trip1ex]

WintersNight said:

if you're a prosumer than Apple didn't design this with you in mind. Final Cut Express exists for a reason. as far as "glitz" themes and titles are exactally the sort of thing apple should have added it. the majority of people out there want an easy way to organize the clips of their kids school play, and a fast way to cut it together and make it look fancy.


your attitude is like criticizing a Ford Focus for not being able to go from 0-60 in under 4 seconds. THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO DO!!!!!

Exactly!