[bryankia]

What impresses me is that applecrate knows the origin of man. You have faith in what you believe, not hard evidence. Kind of like Mike… the difference between the two of you is that I think Mike would be a lot more polite.
Peace,
Bryan

PS Evolution, Intelligent design, or Hand of God. What matters today is that we love each other even if we don’t agree.

PPS make mine Mac :)

[WarrenS]

In digging through the trash can, he found an old PC, a condom, and a picture of Charles Darwin.

[HyperMactive]

Hey, who can blame applecrate for believing his great, great grandpa was a pungent chimp named Bobo? :)

[applecrate]

Everything I know about the origin of man I learned from the Flintstones.

[context]

bryankia said:

>> PS Evolution, Intelligent design, or Hand of God. What matters today is that we love each other even if we don’t agree.

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A conservative moral relativist. Not as uncommon as one might think.

[XMattingly]

WarrenS said:

In digging through the trash can, he found an old PC, a condom, and a picture of Charles Darwin.

Hahaha, I happen to like Huckabee - even though I don't agree with some of his views, but that was really funny! :)

[folklore]

bryankia said:

What impresses me is that applecrate knows the origin of man. You have faith in what you believe, not hard evidence. Kind of like Mike… the difference between the two of you is that I think Mike would be a lot more polite.

In politics, politeness is important. But politeness has no place in science. Bad ideas should be derided and discarded. That's precisely how science continues to provide better explanations for how the world works.

[HyperMactive]

Good grief, can we drop the political/religious diatribes already? The only thing we know for sure about science is that what we know about it now will seem laughable 200 years from now. So the science of today will be the bad ideas of the year 2200.

Science once thought the sun revolved around the Earth. So while you think "you know," you really don't. So let's stop with the holier than thou attitudes and get back to talking about computers - and what an A-league doofus Mike Huckabee is. :)

P.S. lots of "bad ideas" in science that were once derided turned out to be "good ideas" after all. So go apply your scientific theory to that one...

[XMattingly]

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Well... tell that to anyone who ever ran for President of the U.S.! :)

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Telling everyone else what they should be talking about, while inserting your own barbs?

HYPOCRITEcough>

[folklore]

HyperMactive said:

Science once thought the sun revolved around the Earth. So while you think "you know," you really don't. So let's stop with the holier than thou attitudes and get back to talking about computers - and what an A-league doofus Mike Huckabee is. :)

I rather purposefully avoided directly confronting the whole evolution thing in my previous post. But now you've goaded me into it. :)

I'm always amazed when people say that science is flexible as if that's a bad thing. It is that very flexibility that provides strength to science. Science discards bad ideas when better ideas come along. It is not that science has the right answers. It's that science has the best answers given the available information. When the information changes, the answers may change. Dogmatic adherence to cannot do that.

It's therefore not scientific answers that have strength, it's the process. That process values evidence over ideology.

And that is why an elected official's "belief" in evolution matters. A "disbelief" in evolution suggests a worldview that ignores the best evidence in favor of ideology. That is not a quality I want in an elected official.

[HyperMactive]

The Science vs. God debate is irrelevant to the fact that Mike Huckabee is a doofus. No hypocrisy there.

[HyperMactive]

"When the information changes, the answers may change." - folklore

Convenient. So it's the old "I may be wrong, and being wrong is just part of being right, but everyone who disagrees with me is wrong with no chance of being right, thus I condemn them for their obvious wrongness" line of reasoning, eh? Sounding brass and tinkling cymbals, methinks. Ultimately it's an interesting, and amusing, predicament.

To God this whole debate must sound like kindergartners arguing about quantum physics while still wearing pullups to bed. :)

[palane]

As I recall, el Rushbo has been a longtime Mac user.
BB

[palane]

Newtonian physics is hundreds of years old and still valid as long as you stay away from high gravity and keep away from light speed. Special and general relativity arose when Newtonian physics began to break down. Likewise, quantum mechanics arose when the atomic properties were inconsistent with previous theories. Darwin was 19th century. There was no hint of genetics, yet Origin of Species got the core idea of evolution right. You're not going to have a great overturning of principals of modern science. There's too much empirical evidence accumulated.

That much having been said, Huckabee's an entertaining guy and I wish him well. Just not the presidency.

BB

"Good grief, can we drop the political/religious diatribes already? The only thing we know for sure about science is that what we know about it now will seem laughable 200 years from now. So the science of today will be the bad ideas of the year 2200."