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"learn, learn": sounds like you like to teach, OS11.
What I "learned" is that Apple did indeed pull Netshare's modem app last summer:
http://www.theregist.../08/04/netshareinoutinout/
We can argue and speculate about the reasons, but the bottom line is that this would be useful to many folks, but Apple "just said no". So yes Apple DID kill it, it IS feasible, I "learned" this and so will you when you read the above article.
What you should also realize is that if a $79 point-and-shoot (with a far larger CCD array than the iPhone's) can shoot video into its 2GB card, so can the iPhone (and if it can't, then there is a serious design flaw IMHO). If I can store and watch several full length movies (at least 5 hrs of video if not more) on my 16 GB iPhone (why did I buy 16 GB?), then clearly the storage capacity and hardware are sufficient to process video in real-time. Or am I missing something here?
As for focus, when you charge premium and your device falls short in capabilities of cheaper devices, then consumers will start to "focus" elsewhere and move on to other vendors.
Finally, in light of the above, I think you are mistaken by concluding that the above is not technically feasible (since it's been done for both the video and the tethering, it's just that Apple does not yet allow/officially support, that's my real point).
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 11:25 AM
Yes, but if you actually "learn" about the stiuation, it was AT&T that ended that app, not Apple.
You need to also learn about the word "scale"... sure, 100, 1,000 people using a free tethering app is fine, but when you get into 100,000's it simply won't work on the current 2G / 3G backbone. AT&T is spending billions to get cell networks up to this level, but not sure why you are complaining until they do. But yes, when all that is in place a $10 per month fee will be enacted, but you seem a little spoiled to not understand it's not possible now on a "huge scale" without a downside to every user.
Apple sold 4.3 MILLION iPhones in the last 90 days... so allowing "free" tethering, is absurd and you SHOULD know this...
As for Video, you continue to be uneducated about what is possible on the level of quality Apple operates upon. You can make all kinds of rediculous claims, but the bottom line is... Apple won't do it until it is ready at the level an Apple user expects.
All your comments point to you are not an Apple or Mac user, so you are not welcome to this land of quality. You want to cheapen up everyone's experience for the self gratification of yourself. That's NOT how the Apple community works, so come back when you learn a little about modern technology.
Take care!
You need to also learn about the word "scale"... sure, 100, 1,000 people using a free tethering app is fine, but when you get into 100,000's it simply won't work on the current 2G / 3G backbone. AT&T is spending billions to get cell networks up to this level, but not sure why you are complaining until they do. But yes, when all that is in place a $10 per month fee will be enacted, but you seem a little spoiled to not understand it's not possible now on a "huge scale" without a downside to every user.
Apple sold 4.3 MILLION iPhones in the last 90 days... so allowing "free" tethering, is absurd and you SHOULD know this...
As for Video, you continue to be uneducated about what is possible on the level of quality Apple operates upon. You can make all kinds of rediculous claims, but the bottom line is... Apple won't do it until it is ready at the level an Apple user expects.
All your comments point to you are not an Apple or Mac user, so you are not welcome to this land of quality. You want to cheapen up everyone's experience for the self gratification of yourself. That's NOT how the Apple community works, so come back when you learn a little about modern technology.
Take care!
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 11:58 AM
Dear OS11:
Clearly you have strong views, and clearly you could use some refreshing on etiquette and common manners judging by the tone of your reply. And clearly you are one of those (happily infrequent) Mac fanatics that give Mac users a bad reputation, where criticism of the platform is never welcome, and anything Apple releases is by definition of the highest quality, and don't anyone dare say otherwise. Please. But we are getting off topic.
Nobody said anything about free tethering: we pay for the data bandwidth thru our plans with our carriers. I pay for a 6GB/mo plan and cannot use the iPhone as a modem, for whatever reasons, perhaps valid, perhaps not. If a carrier charges its users for 6GB/mo, presumably they calculated that they have the capacity to support this. Otherwise there is something wrong, they are selling a service they cannot provide, akin to overselling seats on flights, which makes no one happy.
As for me being a Mac user, your statements betray your lack of judgment, likely blinded by your inability to bring your own self to say anything critical about Apple, and your inability to understand that even loyal Apple followers can bring themselves to pointing out deficiencies: I've been using and writing code for Apple hardware from the days when the 6502 was under the hood of Apple II's, probably before you were born, judging by your age reflected by the lack of maturity in your replies. I love Apple hardware/software probably as much as you do, but I also understand that constructive criticism is both helpful and necessary, in order to drive improvements of, yes, even Apple products.
My criticisms regarding the lack of modem and video apps on the iPhone stand, and I hope Apple rectifies this shortly with the quality you and I expect, so that this superb piece of hardware can become even more useful to more people.
Please don't flame anymore, it reflects badly on you.
Have a great day.
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Clearly you have strong views, and clearly you could use some refreshing on etiquette and common manners judging by the tone of your reply. And clearly you are one of those (happily infrequent) Mac fanatics that give Mac users a bad reputation, where criticism of the platform is never welcome, and anything Apple releases is by definition of the highest quality, and don't anyone dare say otherwise. Please. But we are getting off topic.
Nobody said anything about free tethering: we pay for the data bandwidth thru our plans with our carriers. I pay for a 6GB/mo plan and cannot use the iPhone as a modem, for whatever reasons, perhaps valid, perhaps not. If a carrier charges its users for 6GB/mo, presumably they calculated that they have the capacity to support this. Otherwise there is something wrong, they are selling a service they cannot provide, akin to overselling seats on flights, which makes no one happy.
As for me being a Mac user, your statements betray your lack of judgment, likely blinded by your inability to bring your own self to say anything critical about Apple, and your inability to understand that even loyal Apple followers can bring themselves to pointing out deficiencies: I've been using and writing code for Apple hardware from the days when the 6502 was under the hood of Apple II's, probably before you were born, judging by your age reflected by the lack of maturity in your replies. I love Apple hardware/software probably as much as you do, but I also understand that constructive criticism is both helpful and necessary, in order to drive improvements of, yes, even Apple products.
My criticisms regarding the lack of modem and video apps on the iPhone stand, and I hope Apple rectifies this shortly with the quality you and I expect, so that this superb piece of hardware can become even more useful to more people.
Please don't flame anymore, it reflects badly on you.
Have a great day.
P.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 12:18 PM
nah, it's not about strong views, it's about the actuality of the situations you desire.
yes, I think every one now agrees apple builds the top end PCs and Phones, it just seems you are angry that this has occured.
okay, then you agree free tethering isn't an option so Apple isn't the culprut... great! then please understand it takes many steps to make this possible on millions of phones at the same time. your tone is very much like "i want it now, i want it for free", so i'm simply tempering your teenage behavior.
so you weren't brought up in the apple culture, so admit it, don't dance around what everyone can plainly see. no, i was brought up on the 6502 and it's clear you aren't from that era.
you are complaining without knowledge, and i'm hear to help you understand the complexities involved. YES, we both agree Video and Tethering are excellent features, but I understand it isn't technically possible with the current dram memory and cell infrastructure in place.
Quit playing the "fool"... thanks!
yes, I think every one now agrees apple builds the top end PCs and Phones, it just seems you are angry that this has occured.
okay, then you agree free tethering isn't an option so Apple isn't the culprut... great! then please understand it takes many steps to make this possible on millions of phones at the same time. your tone is very much like "i want it now, i want it for free", so i'm simply tempering your teenage behavior.
so you weren't brought up in the apple culture, so admit it, don't dance around what everyone can plainly see. no, i was brought up on the 6502 and it's clear you aren't from that era.
you are complaining without knowledge, and i'm hear to help you understand the complexities involved. YES, we both agree Video and Tethering are excellent features, but I understand it isn't technically possible with the current dram memory and cell infrastructure in place.
Quit playing the "fool"... thanks!
