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Qtrax shows how to make free, legal music downloads unappealing

#57 User is offline   JDW Icon

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 06:32 PM

ItunesIsDead said:

People don't want to be illegal - they just want free music.

Hmmm. I guess you might be on to something. Because I would certainly love some free maple syrup without having to resort to sealing it. Hmmm.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 06:36 PM

Yes I did say it, and no, I am NOT stanley. Get a life and have the MW folks check IPs.
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#59 User is offline   Stanley Icon

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 06:36 PM

thanks for your' post. There may still be music stores around, but ask the record companies why they are struggling big time, and it's because of pirated music. Dj's still buy vinyl for the sound, and I hope that never goes away. As far as the high price of maple syrup in Japan, why don't you join me on the "Syrups of Easter Canada forum" and we'll see what we can do about stirring up the competition LOL. Or another alternative may be some of those torrent sites that offer reduced prices on last years Golden Goose amber syrup from the Gaspe region.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 06:54 PM

good post Itunes. I wouldn't say the I-pod is altogether closed. It's true you couldn't share your playlist, but I'm not restricted by what I can put in there. I use the itunes software to get my music on the ipod, doesn't mean I buy from i-tunes. I must admit your user name ItunesisDead is a little over the top, but I understand it was a reaction to below average journalism. My friends call me Stanley, or Stan the man, but if you are ever on the "Syrups of Eastern Canada" forum, you can look me up, I post under the name DC.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 07:00 PM

Oh so much that I could say or respond to, but I really don't feel like getting into that right now (it's almost 7p pacific time and the Office will start soon, so I'd rather relax and enjoy a laugh - aside from the ones I'm getting from Itunesisdead and his ilk). I do want to comment on two things though. First, as some have said, the iPod/iPhone isn't a closed system, it can and readily does accept almost any DRM-free media (certainly the popular types such as MP3 and AAC). Second, to those arguing against the "journalistic integrity" of this particular article... I would have you note that it was posted on the MacUser part of the MacWorld site, and right next to its title, it clearly says: "News, info, and opinion by Mac users, for Mac users."

Clearly... or I would imagine it'd be clear to those operating with more than five functional neurons... there are aspects to Dan's article that are opinion.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 07:06 PM

I guess nowadays uneducated opinions still strike a chord in people. Who would have thought?
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 07:13 PM

I've met many people, and many things, that were uneducated or founded on uneducated premises. This article is hardly an example of either. But hey... far be it from me to keep you from marching to the DRM-protected beat of your own drum.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 07:14 PM

And I am voicing my opinions too. That's the beauty of this country.

And, yes, maybe I over-reacted a bit with my name, but the article really ticked me off - not because of his opinion, but because of the lack of facts to back it up. Just seemed childish to me. Maybe I should have called myself "iTunesIsInTrouble." Point taken! Good night.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 07:29 PM

Let's not pretend you weren't drumming the drm protected itunes beat only months ago. But if you are at the office, I suggest you get off the internet and back to work, as someone may be peering over your' cubicle.


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Posted 12 February 2009 - 07:39 PM

Stanley said:


>The advertising is off to the right. If you didn't notice, it's because it's completely unobtrusive. you don't have to watch any adds to access the library. This isn't some free service that makes you watch and add in exchange for free music. The adds are banner style. Much like google.

How could I notice? I can't download the client I'm required to run to access this stuff. So no, we're not talking about the website.

You asked for feedback on the site. I provided it. There's no information on how ads are presented.

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All your points are lost because there is no ad-laden.


No, my point stands, you just don't want to address it. You made the point that 67 billion tracks were stolen with the idea that somehow Qtrax was going to cash in on that market. Again, how is Qtrax going to monetize those 67 billion tracks?

I'll save you the trouble. It won't. People will continue to steal music because it's easy -- easier than being tethered to a PC connected to the Internet running the Qtrax client.

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 07:40 PM

Actually, I owned two albums with DRM, one because I couldn't find it anywhere else at the time and the other because I was trying iTunes for the first time and thought I'd give it a go. Since DRM-free tracks became available, I've converted those albums. The rest of my music was a result of buying the CD and ripping it to AAC (one of those universal, DRM-free, media-file-types). So in short, no, actually my beats are DRM free.

And two... for someone who claims to be "an affluent north american that works in media and arts" and is "all about macs", you seemed to have a hard time catching a reference to a fairly popular US television show that appears on Thursday nights (and who incidentally often feature Apple-based products). Granted, your media work might be too high-and-mighty for such a reference... but still... just makes one wonder.

Just as I wonder about the psychological fortitude of anyone who has to call themselves "the Man."
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 07:45 PM

Macworld, you are considered a somewhat serious publication in the tech world. Is this article your honest opinion about Qtrax. I mean aren't you all about offering all possible options and competitive enhancement of technology. Qtrax is to iTunes what Apple was to Microsoft. Its time for iTunes either get its act together or buyout Qtrax. What say people?
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 07:55 PM

Chris, if you go to the website, what you see there is what you will see with the client. Where you see the pimp my site, and the ads by google, that's your advertisement. The site hasn't launched yet, so there isn't much advertise You can't download the client right now because they are shifting out of beta to version 1.0. as we speak. I appreciate your' feedback, and the effort you made to look into it. By the way, what makes you so sure of yourself?

"I'll save you the trouble. It won't. People will continue to steal music because it's easy -- easier than being tethered to a PC connected to the Internet running the Qtrax client.


You sound like a bit of a freak here, because a), most people use PC.s B)most of them are connected to the internet and C)
unless you are a real lazy stoner, downloading the client is no big feat. Granted, as of the last few days, the client is down. You used to be able to download the beta, but now they are going to version 1.0 and you will have to wait for the official version coming soon. I think the problem here is you are being a bit hard headed or short sided as to where this is going. I-tunes have been around for many years. Don't expect new innovations to manifest them selves over night as the second coming. Let a new service develop their' model, and you'll have mac and itunes compatibility in short order.
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Posted 12 February 2009 - 08:00 PM

haha good one nonfinis. Was kidding about the"Man "part. Gotta keep a sense of humor going. As far as your american show, sorry, I barely watch tv. When I said media I meant using the mac for media work. The mac is the computer of choice for most media artists. When I said you were drumming to the drm beat, I meant i-tunes. Sorry again for the misunderstanding.
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