[benroethig]

trip1ex said:

This iMac upgrade was more about the 24" iMac shedding $300.

I was happy about the price drop. I sold my 20" 2.0ghz iMac a few days ago (pocketed $900 :) ) and today I bought a 24" 2.4 ghz refurb for $1049 from Apple's site.

It did come at the price of downgraded graphics performance though as it moved from mid-range to entry level.

[Biallystock]

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Biallystock said:

> So, unfortunately is the customer.

Ah, so this is why Apple is ramping up production. I was so confused until you explained it so succinctly.

I think you remain confused/deluded:



Mac sales figures drop 16 percent.

[trip1ex]

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trip1ex said:

> This iMac upgrade was more about the 24" iMac shedding $300.
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> I was happy about the price drop. I sold my 20" 2.0ghz iMac a few days ago (pocketed $900 :) ) and today I bought a 24" 2.4 ghz refurb for $1049 from Apple's site.

It did come at the price of downgraded graphics performance though as it moved from mid-range to entry level.

Yeah, but the 24" also has twice the memory and hard drive space than before.

The new integrated gpu my still hold a few surprises as well. Also not like the 2600 pro is a powerhouse gpu in the first place.

[simonsharks]

The new 3Ghz iMac is quicker than the previous generation that I have but it is #300 more. If you compare the previous generation 3Ghz to the new 2.93GHz using MacWorld's benchmarks the old iMac is faster (with 4GB of RAM) than the new at the same price point. So I'm quite happy I didn't wait and bought mine last September.

[jenn21327]

I was just on Abt Electronic's facebook page and they have a nice review on the 24" iMac on youtube. I'm not that advanced with the "macworld" so this was easy for me to understand.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Wkx8Cfxe5mY

[whitedog]

{quote}...my iMac is 5 years old a wait of a few more months will not do any harm although I know I am doing the typical dithering and realise there comes a time when you actually have to make a decision !{quote}

How important a new computer is depends on what you use your old Mac for - and how it's holding up. If you're not doing video or running the latest Adobe CS apps, for instance, there may be no compelling need to upgrade. A computer is just a tool (mostly - sometimes it's a toy ;-) ). If the tool you have does the job you need it to, replacing it might be desirable but not really necessary. In which case, the controlling issue may be what you can afford. On the other hand, if you want or need to upgrade to newer, resource intensive software, a new Mac may be essential. Other good reasons to upgrade include faster WiFi and Ethernet, as well as greater RAM speed and capacity - in other words, greater efficiency.

[DocNo]

Biallystock said:

I think you remain confused/deluded:

Yup, your absolutely right, someone is confused:

http://arstechnica.c...-production.ars

Here's a hint for you - sales report, backwards looking. Ordering new parts for production of product, future looking.

Then again, given your consistently negative outlook I'm not surprised you focus on the past.

[Biallystock]

Nope stickler for accuracy and never, ever have been a sucker for sales talk.

You seem to think production equals sales.

They can stick as much shoes in the window as they like, when reality bites, it'll be buy one get one free.

[OldMacDude]

BrianM said:

the 20" iMac uses the cheaper "TN" LCD panel that has the lower bit depth, and pretty small viewing angle.

the 24" iMac uses the "IPS" LCD panel that has a little slower response, but does have the much higher viewing angle (so you don't get much/if any colour or contrast shift as you move away from center) This would be the same panel type as the old 20" Cinema Display.

I'm wondering if it's possible for an end user to buy a 20" matte IPS panel and do their own transplant. Or perhaps buy a 20" panel in a monitor and swap the 2 panels. Do the different panels have different mount points, power requirements, video hookups, etc.?

[Biallystock]

I can't vouch for the electronic side but having had the screen off my previous iMac 24" it is an intricate and detailed piece of engineering. Apple has tailored the screen, its fixings and frame specifically to the model. I can not see you being able to buy anything off the shelf and have it fit without a lot of work and gap filler.

Maybe you could cover all the gaps with duct tape.

Be aware that the screen is the entry into the guts of the iMac. Everything else is fitted like a jigsaw behind the screen.

[whitedog]

{quote}I'm wondering if it's possible for an end user to buy a 20" matte IPS panel and do their own transplant. Or perhaps buy a 20" panel in a monitor and swap the 2 panels. Do the different panels have different mount points, power requirements, video hookups, etc.?{quote}

Assuming for a moment you're actually serious about this question, even if it were possible to swap out the screen in a 20" iMac (which is highly improbable), why would you want to waste the time and money and void your warrantee doing so? It would be much cheaper - and easier - to use non-glare film on the 20" iMac screen to achieve essentially the same result. Check out PhotoDon.com.

[Biallystock]

Whilst we are persisting with these really good ideas As Seen On Daytime TV, try spraying hairspray all over your screen, smear on snake oil or buff it back with a belt sander.

Or why not try all three?

They'll all have about the same effect, and could save you a few bucks.

[JDW]

whitedog said:

Check out PhotoDon.com.

And while you're at it, don't forget to read the less than stellar review of that very film.

If Photodon was truly a solution, I would have a brand new iMac sitting on my desk at the moment. Sadly, Photodon and other films are not the solution as they produce sparkles and look bad during the daytime. The use of a matte LCD or anti-glare coatings/etchings (which only Apple can do), is the only real solution (aside from going outside Apple and getting an EFI-X enabled "Mac").

[hcge]

Possible 1st time mac buyer here. I am trying to get a feel for the pros and cons of the different systems. I plan on doing mostly hobby video editing with the machine. I figure ILife09 will probably be adequate for my beginner efforts. Now, which machine will do the job? I looked at the 20" IMac, but was worried about the screen quality concerns. The 24" screen is really going to be larger than I have room for on my desk and the extra $300 could kill my budget. It was recommended to get the Mac Mini at $599, upgrade the RAM to 2G, find a good monitor for about $200, and use the extra keyboard and mouse I have. This will place me well under my budget. Any thoughts on whether the mini will hold up to the job?

I would appreciate any thoughts.