[Grapho]

Funny, I develop web pages also, not as my main deal, but as a graphic designer. One thing I don't look forward is once you have your site looking good, it tears apart in IE. Even the new slowmotion IE 8 that is supposed to be the most web standardized web compliant version forces you to go in and find all sort of work of workarounds to CSS displaying issues that simply do not exist in the rest of the browser world. ACID 3 baby.

Now that the web is going mobile, MS has finally realized that there market penetration is not sustainable. Slowly but steadily the internet is infiltrating our lives beyond our computers and Microsoft is simply no longer a prevalent force in these new markets. So as thing progress they will become increasingly irrelevant. Sure, they have the desktop revolution, but the new what's next revolution is already upon us, and they have been stalled in the starting line.

[bonesb]

Downloading the new Opera 10 Beta and Opera Mini for my VZW Storm right now! Putting Opera 10 on my PCs at work in the morning, making it the default browser!!!
Boycott the boycott!

[LowededWookie]

The reason Microsoft is in trouble over IE is because you can't uninstall IE and use something else.

Safari can be thrown into the bin if you desire but Microsoft tied IE into the system so that Windows can't run without it therefore giving IE the unfair advantage.

Safari is merely a browser based on an internal framework so while the framework is required by Mac OS X to run, Safari isn't.

[People_Eater]

A Microsoft enthusiast group calling for a boycott of Opera is something like an Apple enthusiast group calling for a boycott of Internet Explorer. In other words, completely pointless.

[Steve_S]

doglesby said:

I can't believe there are a lot of "Microsoft enthusiasts" (shudder) using Opera.

Seeing as though Opera represents less than 1% market-share for web browsers, a boycott of this product is truly meaningless.

[Steve_S]

DonBurnett said:

I'll skip your other post because it has been sufficiently debunked by others...

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Let's say one day the Rhapsody Music Service in "Europe" said to the EU, we want to complain.. Apple has a dominant share with it's iPods in the music market and they control consumer choice of which music service they should use and buy from..
We want them to include Rhapsody's Music Store in with and let it work with the iPOD instead of Apple's own iTunes Music store, because they indeed own dominant market share in hardware and software.. We don't just want to be "in the iTunes Store" we want to be bundled instead oh and by the way Apple needs to give us all their technical data on the iPod and start selling Rhapsody bundled in with their iPods..

The problem with your fictitious scenario is that you're blaming Apple for iPod and iTMS based restrictions. That blame is misplaced. The record labels insisted on DRM which prompted Apple to use the "fairplay" DRM solution. Apple was also bound by the labels to make sure the DRM was effective. Sharing that same solution with a bunch a different vendors would have likely compromised that solution.

Regardless, now, DRM is gone from all music stores, including Apple's iTMS. Amazon and others compete squarely for iPod based music sales.

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This would be no different how would you resolve this dispute. If the EU then told Apple well because of your dominant marketshare you have no choice.. Then Apple withdrew the product and the EU said wait you can't do that..
Do you guys see the issue, if you take the Microsoft bias out of the equasion??

That's pretty much what happened as companies threatened to ban iTMS sales. That issue was immediately dissolved when the labels finally relented and allowed DRM free music to be sold through the iTMS. Again, your analogy is bad because the blame was misplaced in the example you provided.

[venividivici]

You can here the MS enthusiast group say things like:

Can I Google that on Bing?