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10.1.5 or Silk disable my sleep

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Posted 08 June 2002 - 07:20 PM

I can't put my dual G4/450 to sleep anymore. Why? I go to the apple menu sleep and it never works anymore. is it cus of the 10.1.5 update or silk? I can't tell.
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Posted 08 June 2002 - 07:31 PM

Well I un installed Silk and still can't put my Dual G4/450 10.1.5 to sleep using the sleep in the apple menu. so 10.1.5 disables sleep mode for me and i think it's a *y update. so stay away from 10.1.5

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Posted 08 June 2002 - 08:12 PM

Sorry you are having troubles, but Silk and X.1.5 on my iBook 700 and sleep works fine from the apple menu. Wish I had another solution for you images/icons/frown.gif
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Posted 08 June 2002 - 08:53 PM

you don't have my mac so you can't really say anything.
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Posted 08 June 2002 - 09:01 PM

buggs,

Did you check to make sure your Energy Saver settings did not change after updating?

Did you restart the computer after updating?

Did you check in System Preferences - login to make sure you deleted Silk from your login items?

Did you run fsck -y?

Did you run Macjanitor and Xoptimize?

Good luck!

Peter

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Posted 08 June 2002 - 09:32 PM

nothing changed. silk is totally deleted. i will not use command line. it is not needed. of course i rebooted when it updated. energy is everything turned off. same as before the update. sleep worked before 10.1.5 so obviously apple f'ed up.

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Posted 08 June 2002 - 09:55 PM

I'm not sure what you're looking here for buggs. I personally don't have this problem (but I don't have your machine either). Peter offered some excellent suggestions. Sometimes the commandline is needed to accomplish some repairs (unless you want to start up off an OS X install disk and run Disk Utility from there, which is the same thing as using fsck -y).

You shouldn't recommend everyone stay away from this update when so far, your machine is the only one having this problem. This update adds a very qualitative feature (AA text in carbon apps) and I think is an important update.

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Posted 08 June 2002 - 10:02 PM

AA text in carbon apps? where? IE still doesn't have it and it's ugly text unless you use Silk.
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Posted 08 June 2002 - 10:06 PM

buggs,

In the Macfixit forums there seems to be problems waking from sleep that have to do with Radeon cards or something, but no one else has mentioned the same kind of problem you are having.

But judging from your replies to both me and Basscat, you didn't really post your problem to get any help. You just want to complain about the update and tell us Apple "f' ed up".

Peter

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Posted 08 June 2002 - 10:22 PM

Um, in Office v.X and Mozilla (late build). 10.1.5 makes AA text possible in these apps. IE will have AA text soon when it's updated. Until apps are updated, they can't take advantage of this feature (unless you get Silk, which forces apps to use AA text). Trust me, AA in carbon apps is thanks to 10.1.5.
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Posted 09 June 2002 - 12:14 AM

Don't start Peter, it's bad if you do. I was in no way being an ass. Fighting sucks. So don't.
I posted yes to say apple screwed up, not to get help. I know there is nothing to do except reformat and re install 10.x. I know macs and I know that's the only way to fix it. It worked before, now it doesn't go to sleep. Nuff said.
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Posted 09 June 2002 - 02:22 AM

buggs1a Sounds obvious, but have you treid pressing the power button on your G4 in stead of using the Apple Menu?
If you have OS9 installed too, have you tried putting it to sleep in there to identify whether it IS the 10.1.5 update?
If you have checked your energy saving prefs in System Preferences, can you still get it to sleep on a time-out basis?
Have you contacted Apple for support?
Have you checked the Apple Support Pages?

Try to fix the problem before you reformat your system. Let Apple know about it - you could have uncovered an unknown bug, or one they can help you fix.

Just some ideas... good luck!

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Posted 09 June 2002 - 05:06 AM

Maybe you have a peripheral (SCSI card, etc.) in your Mac that is not supported by 10.1.5 for some reason. Oftentimes, third-party hardware force Macs to stay awake because they do not support sleep mode.

I would examine the third-party devices you have, attempt sleep after disconnecting each one individually, and generally isolate the problem that way.

Whan 99.9% of the users on these forums say they've had no problems with 10.1.5, and you, a 0.01% say that you do and that Apple "f'ed up," your ranting post is really non-effective, because, as you say, "no one has [your[ computer." Maybe buggs or a third-party vendor "f'ed up." The possibilities are certainly more broad than "Apple f'ed up," which seems to be the first response to everything (second only to "Microsoft f'ed up," of course).

Good luck, man

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Posted 09 June 2002 - 05:47 AM

I have the problem with losing the network connection and settings when I wake my G4 533 DP from sleep. I first noticed this on my primary hard drive and also on a second hard drive that was brand new and formatted (zeroed all data). I installed OS 10.1 from the cd and then applied all the OS X updates to get to 10.1.5. This installation had no 3rd party software and still lost the Network settings and connections when it woke from sleep requiring a reboot to get the connection back.

I have disconnected all USB devices, removed the second hard drive, reformatted the new drive a second time and reinsttalled OS 10.1. I then applied the updates to get to 10.1.5. The network connection still vanishes after waking from sleep.
From the amount of posts re: this problem on the Apple boards and MFI. I think that it must be a bug.

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