[GazelleIntense]

ive used macs 13 yrs, and never found a virus..... until today.
I just bought and installed Norton Systemworks 3.0, which has norton antivirus 9.... latest version.... did a scan, and sure enough, in my eudora attachments folder. was this. here's the report, copied and pasted. (it mostly found W32.Klez.H@mm, a pc virus)....

Norton AntiVirus Scan Report
07/09/2003, 10:37 AM
Summary: Problems found.
Files Examined: 176549 (0 in archives)
Total Infected Files: 16 (0 in archives)
File Status Comment
All.exe Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
alt.exe Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
COAST Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
Cob.exe Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
cscript.exe Repaired Contained a Strain of
W32.Magistr.24876@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
cscript.exe 1 Repaired Contained a Strain of
W32.Magistr.24876@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
FinalGamePage Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
hspace.pif Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
Kcd.bat Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
kids Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
NAME.pif Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
NETSTAT.EXE 1 Repaired Contained a Strain of
W32.Magistr.24876@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
qty.pif Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
rock.exe Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
Untitled Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder
wall.bat Deleted Contained a Strain of
W32.Klez.H@mm
Where: /Users/aevan/Documents/Eudora Folder/Attachments Folder

just thought Id share this for mac users.... I always figured mac viruses dont happen... they do.... learned something new today. Keep that virus protection current!

[Philbert]

Where's the Mac virus? All of those look like they're for PC.
Phil

[d00d]

They are. Most likely, these emails were just sent by an infected computer.

[GazelleIntense]

their pc viruses, but on my mac. that makes them a mac virus to me. they were on my system. first time in 13 yrs using a mac. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Dan Frakes]

No, they aren't Mac viruses, and you don't "have" a virus /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
These are Windows viruses that are normally distributed as attachments via email. In fact, that's how you got them: some of your Windows-using friends are infected and sent them to you as attachments.
If you were running Windows and opened any of those files, then you'd be infected and the virus would do its thing. Since you're on a Mac, they not only won't do anything, they can't do anything, no matter how hard you try to get them to work /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif They're just useless files sitting on your hard drive.
Norton is reporting them as viruses because technically they are, and because Norton's virus database includes Windows viruses. However, they can't/won't do any damage to your Mac.

[Azzgunther]

No no no Dan...I can think of a way he can infect something:
He could go get Virtual PC-
Install on Mac-
Open infected e-mail through VPC-
Enjoy.
/forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif There's always a way /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Officetom]

Just a comment as I have on the PC side been infected with that virus and it is a very nasty piece of work and hard to get rid of. Were you able to contact the people who sent you the emails to let them know they have a problem.

[GazelleIntense]

my friend brian sends me pc files, .exe.... short programs, sometimes. but sometimes I get this stuff sent from people I dont know via spam.
so, I have no way of knowing who the culprit was.
I did ask my friend if he has virus protection and keeps it up to date, and he says yes.

[Nobody]

Nobody seems to have brought this up yet: Macs are immune to that virus but they can "vector" it.
Although those PC viruses are harmless to a Mac that isn't using VPC, they can be sent to other people. If those other people are PC-ers, they will be infected. (If they open it.)
The only true Mac virus that I have seen PERSONALLY is the "666" virus. (AKA: "Sevendust".) That one can't infect OS X. Only OS 9/Classic. I know there are others but I have never seen them in peson. I don't even know if there are any viruses for OS X but I'm sure it's only a matter of time untill some horse's ass decides to whip one up.
That having been said... It seems to me that the main goal of antivirus programs for Macs is to prevent them from vectoring PC viruses. This, I say, is what your antivirus program just did.
Your PC-sucking friends should thank you for the favor. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[GazelleIntense]

I have vpc, but dont use it that often really. since I removed the virus in mac osx, I guess im ok now? safe? even if I fire up vpc?
thanks for the info. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Nobody]

I wouldn't say you are "Safe", really.
Yes, there are no (known) OS X viruses... YET. It's almost a sure thing that there WILL be one, eventually. It's just a matter of time until some #$%@&$ comes up with one. Having virus protection in place before you need it is a good idea.
There are also things known as "macro viruses". Microsoft Word/Works has the capability to use macros that can do things similar to the way AppleScript works. (Only AppleScript is better.) They can take control of the program and make it do things against your will. A similar thing can happen to M$ Outlook. If you use these programs on the Mac, somebody can send you a macro and make the program do things against your will.
There are a few more things that people can do to your computer from afar. I don't want to give any ideas to the idiots out there, so I won't elaborate. Second, I don't know a whole lot of them but I know they are there.
I guess, the moral of the story is that it's OK to feel good about having a Mac because they don't get viruses as easily but don't think you are 100% safe just because of it. The very LEAST you need to do is to keep your guard up in case something happens.

[GazelleIntense]

nothing is 100% guaranteed in this world, thats for sure. My understanding is that people with always on internet connections, like dsl and cable, are at a higher risk than that of the occasional dial up user.
I believe that david pogue said recently in one of his mac osX books that "attempts to hack him happen dozens of times per week".... I found that to be interesting.
Ive been pretty lucky in 13 yrs on the net and using a mac. But time shows, eventually it can happen to anyone. Sooner or later.
anyone wanting more info on the subject should go to:
www.securemac.com