[Nobody]

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It's funny to me how on the same set of forums (I'll give the benefit of the doubt that it's not the same posters) you can have such anger at paying for services and at the same time such excitement over something like Mozilla blocking out advertisements. (shakes head).

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Very good point.

I think that one of the things that has many people reacting so negatively to this is that it is the yearly subscription fee that is quoted. When you break it down into what it cost per month ($8.25 or $4.08) then the price doesn't seem so bad, especially considering what you get. Now, I am not sure whether I will sign up for this service yet, but I get tired of people complaining when they find that their free ride has come to an end. As i wrote in another thread, Apple is in business to make money. iTools does not make money. Why should they continue to offer this service free?

[Nobody]

Double post.

[ 07-17-2002: Message edited by: GlennBlaylock ]

[Macrohard]

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Now, I am not sure whether I will sign up for this service yet, but I get tired of people complaining when they find that their free ride has come to an end. As i wrote in another thread, Apple is in business to make money. iTools does not make money. Why should they continue to offer this service free?

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I am not sure if it's that simple. When things are not priced correctly it may be a problem. I mean look what happened to Office X, even Apple admitted that it didn't sell because of the pricing, it's just too expensive.

As far as paying a $49.00 or $99.00 a year, I probably will, so will Apple enthusiast. I thought about the monthly breakdown also, I guess, 4 or 8 bucks a month may not seem that much. And there will be a learning curve I am sure, people will complain.

My concern would be how Apple would justify these to switchers? Especially, when you can buy a loaded decent PC for $700. Unless of course, if Apple wants to remain as a particularist with a 5% market share...

[CheeseHead]

Cool.. I just got an email from Apple that says I get a free year, because I purchased extra disk space.

[halo_echoes]

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I'm not going to pay for it until Apple decides to make Homepage a real web hosting service with support for cgi scripts, sendmail, and custom domain names. This has been the reason I have yet to use homepage. I have always felt that it was a sad exuse for a web hosting service. But since it was free, I couldn't complain too much. But if they want to charge for it, they have to get serious and do it right. I said as much in a feedback message. I sure hope they listen since I really don't want to give up my mac.com e-mail address (that's the only thing I've used too ).

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ditto ditto ditto ditto (except for the part about telling apple, i am on my way to do that now).

i know of places to get real professional domain hosting with full ftp/cgi/SSI.. etc etc support, plus a flury of pop email accounts for less than HALF this price. how does this work?

i just want my email too.. nothing else. but $49-$100 a year is way too much to pay for just imap/webmail service. maybe i'll just have to go back to my old domain pop...

[Nobody]

Someone wrote: "i know of places to get real professional domain hosting with full ftp/cgi/SSI.. etc etc support, plus a flury of pop email accounts for less than HALF this price. how does this work?"

You know a spot that will do web hosting for $4.00 a month?! Wow. Best I ever found was $19.95 for something that wasn't free and involved putting pop-up windows over my site. If you honestly know of such places that provide over 2gb of transfer a month, I'd love to get some URLs -- I'd move my family site in a heartbeat!

mac.com isnt' trying to compete for professional hosting services. It's for my mother, who has been using it (and loving it) for putting up pages of pictures of her hikes, her vacations (well, she's retired, so it's all vacations, right?), life in her town, etc. Makes it easy to keep us kids up to date, and she doesn't know the first thing about coding a web page. CGI to her is probably as meaningful as "gigaherz".

If you want professional hosting with domain name redirection, subdomains, etc., then go buy it. If you think that easy to create webpages, virus protection, iDisk, backup, etc., is worth $99 a year, then buy that.

The one thing both options have in common is that they are choices -- none of this is REQUIRED to make the most of your Mac!

-rob.

[formerzealot]

This is a big mistake I can't believe theyre doing this!!
Myself, wife and two children each have a mac email account, we don't want web space or any other fancy and expensive add ons just a simple address that advertises the greatness of the Mac over everything else. How can we pay $400 just to continue saying hello to our friends?
Surely Apple could have left the email free and charged for all the power users who want to exploit the other services. The itools account was a great advert for Apple and I have sung it's praises to everyone I know. Now I am deeply embarrased that the high-handed removal of this service has left many people high and dry.
Apple appears greedy and contemptuous of its supporters.
There is a breach of faith in this and Apple will lose much good faith and business among those who dared to "Think Different".
IT"S A LOT OF MONEY perhaps not to Millionaire CEO's but to millions of mac users. This just makes Microsoft look kind and benevolent!

[Nobody]

You can add additional email addresses for either $5 or $10, forget which. Each gets 10mb? of storage...

-rob.

[Nobody]

Therefore, Formerzealot, you can get your .mac account for $49 add three more e-mail accounts to it for $10 each, bringing your grand total to $79.

[halo_echoes]

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You know a spot that will do web hosting for $4.00 a month?! Wow. Best I ever found was $19.95 for something that wasn't free and involved putting pop-up windows over my site. If you honestly know of such places that provide over 2gb of transfer a month, I'd love to get some URLs -- I'd move my family site in a heartbeat!

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Yes.. megmaster.com does hosting for $4 a month, all the features of professional hosting and no ads. i currently use them for my website. they only give 1gb bandwidth a month, but it's still a good deal. also 2mhost.com has really cheap hosting.. $1.5-$2.5 a month. i'm switching to them once my year expires at megmaster.

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mac.com isnt' trying to compete for professional hosting services. It's for my mother, who has been using it (and loving it)

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that's totally understandable. but for those of us who think beyond the idisk when it comes to web hosting, who are just looking to keep our nice sturdy email account (that we've been using already for months), and nothing else... .mac is a bit steep. they should offer a separate email-only package at a more reasonable price.

just my opinion. images/icons/smile.gif

[Nobody]

I really like the product .mac but two things are really making me doubt:

Right now I use a fast cable modem, but the comming year I'll have to work with a 56k modem: I can't imagine to use iDisk with it...

Using a fast and permanent internet connection, still $9 a month is quite a lot of money when you consider that it comes on top of $46 a month for my ISP

If Apple could keep the price at $50 (+ $10 for my wife) I think it would be acceptable. But still Apple should consider an additional package specially for dial-up modem users.

The (partial) alternative:

My ISP gives me already 15 MB space for a homepage, and a 10 MB email account... just Apple offers more for extra money...

Wimek

[Nobody]

Take a look at the thread:

"Maybe mac.com "email only" will be free? "

It seems like maybe we will be able to keep our mac.com email addresses without paying through the nose for them.

[Nobody]

I don't think so images/icons/frown.gif

see my posting in that thread.

Wimek