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Posted 17 July 2002 - 08:03 AM

I downloaded iTunes3, but on versiontracker are some not to happy people that installed it.... is there anybody with some experiences?

I don't want to ruin my iTunes library (15GB: my whole Cd collection) and cannot simply make a backup on CD...

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Posted 17 July 2002 - 08:36 AM

Many of the people on versiontracker are idiots. Like, for instance, the guy who gives iTunes 3 one star because "he is going to lose his email address of two years".

Then there are the one-star ratings for Real Player X because "it took you long enough!"

Until people can learn to distinguish their problems with a company from their problems with the product in question, those ratings are never going to be very useful.

The only negative reviews that deal with the program itself (i.e. CPU usage) are pre-July 17, which means they are talking about the upgrade to iTunes 2, not today's iTunes 3. Perhaps that alleviates some concern... though it's still pretty early in the day!

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Posted 17 July 2002 - 08:39 AM

I just installed itunes 3 and no problem here but they recommend 256mb of ram images/icons/shocked.gif images/icons/shocked.gif
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Posted 17 July 2002 - 09:37 AM

Wimek

I'm back with some initial impressions (instead of just a VT rant!)

So far, I'm overall impressed with iTunes 3. No install problems (but it does require a reboot). You could, of course, prevent that but I decided not to look for trouble and went with the flow.

Started up fast, asked a few new setup questions, but remembered my prior settings included location of my moved iTunes folder and all of the songs in my Library.

Quick test showed CPU usage in 12-20% range. I tweaked some settings (and turned on the "keep volumes same" option). I'd recommend quitting and rerunning after that. And don't play music while it is trying to scan your Library for relative volumes. It takes a bit to do this initial assessment (I assume it's a one time thing?)

Anyway, after that, it is running smoother than ever. I am typing this in Mozilla (a feat in itself!!) while listening to Tunes -- and rating them via the dock icon! No problems at all on a 350/G4 with 11 other apps running (including 2 browsers and Entourage). Granted I have 960mb ram.

Finally, appearance is subtly improved. Real nice. Operation is smooth. Features are extremely intuitive. Smart lists work exactly as advertised (there are a few default lists). I think there may even be some enhancements to the handling of the Libary folder but I don't recall exactly what was there before. It lets you control how it organizes things for you, and whether new songs get automatically moved to the iTunes folder and organized by Artist/Album/Song. maybe it let you control all this before, but I don't recall.

No problems I have found. Performance could always be even better (lower CPU) but I can't find a single reason not to upgrade from v2. It is at least as good as that was (so far).

Hope this is helpful to all.

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Posted 17 July 2002 - 09:41 AM

I just installed it... it indeed looks promising. Right now it's scanning the volumes of the songs... takes a while: now at 950 of 2600 songs.

My hardware shouldn't be a problem: G4/733 640MB.

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Posted 17 July 2002 - 09:52 AM

Visual mode is greatly improved, although I seldom use it. Stretching the iTunes window to nearly the full 1600x1200 screen, I still get 25 FPS on my GeForce3 machine; in a more "normal" sized window, it clicks along at 40 (in the foreground), and in the smallest visual window, it's over 80 :-).

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Posted 17 July 2002 - 11:00 PM

The new iTunes really works great! I like it images/icons/smile.gif And yes Rob, the visuals are also really improved.

CPU usage is about 10-20 %, but with the visuals all CPU power is used.... but: this really shows the advantages of a preemptive multitasking operating system: despite all CPU power is used, everything still runs smoothly!!!!

Good work Apple!!!

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Posted 17 July 2002 - 11:38 PM

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I like it! It took me awhile to get it to start downloading. Probably because of traffic. Though, too bad they couldn't/didn't add MPEG-4 (AAC) encoding. Oh, well, maybe next time! images/icons/smile.gif

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Posted 17 July 2002 - 11:43 PM

I just gave Apple some feedback:

Wouldn't it be great to be able to share 1 iTunes library with more users on the same Mac, but in such a way that each user still has got his/her own play lists and statistics...

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Posted 17 July 2002 - 03:37 PM

The keynote mentioned an update to iTunes in January or so to take advantage of Blueetooh ... I wouldn't be surprised if they also added in AAC support, if more devices support it by that timeframe...

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Posted 17 July 2002 - 04:15 PM

i cant get itunes 3 to import all of my songs, it only adds about 250 of 1000

any ideas

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Posted 17 July 2002 - 04:18 PM

nevermind that, i got my songs imported but all of my playlists are gone

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Posted 17 July 2002 - 04:28 PM

personally i think itunes 3 should not be a full number increase. it is more like 2.5 maybe. also i don't care what so ever about ratings or the new features. a joke in my opinion. what i want is for radio stations that have very long names we need a bar to see the entire name. scroll bar at the bottem to go left and right.
also right click add play list etc as itunes 2 doesn't have right click feature at all in the fragging app. not good really. and some other things i want which are not in itunes 3 or at least i heard no mention in the keynote. so apple added a bunch of crap i say. not impressed at all for me.
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Posted 17 July 2002 - 04:50 PM

Good thing it was free, then, huh? ;-).

Downgrading to 2.0x is an option, if you kept the installer around.

Personally, version numbers are meaningless to me. I just look at what it does and decide if I like it or not. So far, I like it.

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