[ViolentGreen]

I am trying to use fink to install several applications to run in X (gimp and xmms.) I have had no trouble installing a console based application (lynx) but the x-based apps won't install.
Fink does not seem to detect Apples X11 and it wants to download and intall a new X.
What am I doing wrong here?

[drmbb]

What version of OS X are you using (Panther ?) and what version of FINK (0.6.2 is current)? Have you installed the developers tools (XCode in Panther)? Are you using FINK Commander? I've never used it, and use FINK from the CLI, but have rarely (not ever - but rarely) had problems with it.
Reply back and I will try to help - I have used FINK for well over a year now, and it works great for me, including the Panther release of X11.

[ViolentGreen]

I'm sorry. I should have specified that stuff.
I am running Panther. I have the developement tools installed and everything seems to be compiling correctly. It wants to download the X code base to install. I humored it and let it but thankfully it wouldn't install it over the Apple X11.
I am not on my machine right now so I am not sure which version of fink I am using. I downloaded it about a week ago so i assume it is somewhat current.
Now that I think of it I am using it from the panther terminal and not the X11 terminal. Could this be the problem?

[d00d]

Do they not install or do they not run correctly? IE, when you try to run them, does it give some kind of display error?

[ViolentGreen]

They will not install. When trying to install gimp, it compiled a bunch of stuff for over an hour. Then it gave a message saying something to the effect of "fink needs to install X but another version of X is already installed. Fink will not write over this version of X." Not in those exact words.
When I first try to install, it lists the prereqs that need to be installed as well. It appears to me that one of these packages is the xfree86 source code.
At the beginning when it it prompts for options (including one about X), I just choose the defaults. Do I need something other then the defaults?

[d00d]

Try these commands and then try installing again:

code:
fink selfupdate

fink update-all

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[ViolentGreen]

Actually, I did a self-update yesterday. Doesn't update-all update all installed packages? The only package that is properly installed is lynx. Why would I need to do this?

[CountZero]

I get the same error when I try GIMP couple of nights ago too. Looks like the GIMP installation script expect xFree86 instead of Apple's X11.

[ViolentGreen]

Well I get the same error when I try to install emacs21. It wants to install "xfree86-base-threaded"
The error I get is

code:
You have an existing X11 installation in /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11.

This package refuses to overwrite these. Remove them, then tell Fink to

install xfree86-base again. (The package won't be recompiled.)

Press Return to continue.    

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[drmbb]

If you type "fink list -i", does it show a placeholder package for xfree86? Like this:
i system-xfree86 4.2-13 Placeholder package for manually installed XFree86
Supposedly with FINK 0.6.2 you shouldn't need this as it should be Apple X11 "aware", but if it isn't there, you might try installing it. That might get past the issue of install scripts looking specifically for XFree86 versus X11.

[ViolentGreen]

When I run that command it does show "xfree86-base-th" version 4.2.1.1-16.
I figured I'd try this from the X terminal but I can't seem to open X now so that might be the problem. It just bounces in the dock and then disappears.