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Posted 28 January 2004 - 07:09 AM

HI
i realy need to decide what router i should get, /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
so far i need it to also share files wireless, even print if possible via apple talk.
Can anyone tell me what works best with macs, easy to set up and does not loose connection?
Thank you
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 07:53 AM

What else do you have in your set-up? What kind of printer, etc?
If you have a supported USB printer, you might want to go with the Airport Extreme Basestation. That would be the easiest way to get wireless printing from you Macs.
If you have PCs or an unsupported printer, you might want to go with any old 802.11g router. I have the Netgear 614 router and it works great with my mixed system network. I'm still trying to get my Brother 1240 printer on the network, but that's kinda taken a back seat. The problem is that most solutions would work fine on the PCs, but my Mac would be left out.
The Netgear router is a lot cheaper than Apple's router. You could probably save $150 going with somethign other than the airport.
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 08:06 AM

I do want to print, and it is a BJ 85 USB printer..
I also am on a Netgear 614, looks great but the other night my G4 book connection died for no reason at all, i had to restart the modem and all,
while the older G4 mac stayed connected, and i have a airport extreame card in the powerbook.
People keep telling me linksys is stronger, i get 4 bars with netgear, they get 5 bars with linksys, is that better for what i need?
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 08:39 AM

Same here with the netgear
We lost the powerbook for no reason at alln had to reboot both computers and the modem to get the powerbook back online ;/
Ad ia m also considering a linksys if its possible to do these things, people say here that even if they do NOT support apple, a router is a router if you know how to use it., apple proprietorizes there products and will not tell you anything for $$$$..
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 09:30 AM

I originally had problems with the Netgear when I was futzing around with the WEP set-up. But since then, I haven't had and drop-out at all. Occasionally, my iBook will have trouble finding the signal, but it always comes back. My PCs never have problems with the signal.
I've had my router and modem on continously for about 2 months now. No resets. Of course, YMMV.
If your BubbleJet is on Apple's list for Airport USB printing, you should definately look into that as an option.
As far as comparing the Netgear with the Lynksys, I can't. I've never used the Lynksys. I bought the Netgear because it was the cheapest one at the time. No regrets.
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 09:39 AM

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Ad ia m also considering a linksys if its possible to do these things, people say here that even if they do NOT support apple, a router is a router if you know how to use it., apple proprietorizes there products and will not tell you anything for $$$$..

Muez,
Was this referring to my comment about the problems getting printers to work with non-Airport routers?
The problems that I ran into was that using regular routers with mini-print servers was that to get them to work with Macs, the printer had to be Postscript. There are workarounds, but my skills aren't that good.
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 10:02 AM

Of course, one could avoid all those problems by getting Keyspan's USB server and attaching it to your home network.

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Posted 28 January 2004 - 10:15 AM

Dood,
Thanks for the heads-up. This looks like a perfect solution for my set-up. I could put my scanner and printer on the network and get to them from all of my computers.
You're the best.
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Now I just have to wait until they ship.
Link to Keyspan's Press Release
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 11:55 AM

Do not bother to get that USB thiny if you still can return your router, for that price of $130+ the price of the netgear, just get a airport base.
Save yourself the hassle and move on.
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 12:12 PM

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Do not bother to get that USB thiny if you still can return your router, for that price of $130+ the price of teh netgear, just get a airport base.
Save yourself teh hassle and move on, all keyspan stuf will need updates as well with future os upgrades, atleast the airport base will do that job right away for less.


I'm way past the period where I can return my router. So I can't go that route. Besides, my Brother Laser printer is not on Apple's compatibility page for USB Airport printing. And I'm not about to spend $250 to test it out.
And this Keyspan device has 4 USB ports so I'll be able to hook up multiple printers and my scanner. That's something that AEBS can't do.
BTW, I have PCs on my network and they can't share in the joy of Airport Printer Sharing.
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 02:16 PM

Honestly, if it weren't for the price, that useful little device would be slated for purchase by me. I wonder how well it would work with my EyeTV. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Posted 28 January 2004 - 10:16 PM

Honestly, for anyone with a powerbook that needs a wifi router,
DO NOT buy this " JUNK " if you can avoid it .
Any router should be able to do all the same regardless how much apple bluffs there ignorant cunsumers., its only a matter of time till they realize it.
I am also finding this out the hard way.
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Posted 29 January 2004 - 04:39 AM

Muez,
What are you referring to? I know that my printer is not on Apple's list. I also know that there is a chance that it might work with it even though it's not on the list. I'm not about to take a $250 risk on the chance that it may work.
Besides, even if it did work, my PCs wouldn't be able to access the printer because Windows don't have Rendevous capabilities. With the Keyspan server, I will be able to access my printer with my Mac (via Rendevous or IP) and my PCs (via IP).
Right now, you can pick up a good 802.11g router for about $50. Add $130 for this device and you're at $180. You'd be saving yourself at least $20 over the price of the AEBS.
BTW, why would you call this Keyspan device as junk? Especially since it's not even out yet. $129 is a very good price when you compare it to what is available right now. If you want a 1-port parallel or USB server, you're looking at $70. Similar 4-port devices run for about $100+. This device promises to support printing and other devices (i.e. scanning, hard drives). That's something no one else has yet.
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Posted 29 January 2004 - 03:26 PM

look, thats all understood for people with older hardware that need this as a add on.
But if you have not even decided on a router, get the AEBS and avoid all that 'JUNK', meaning using more then one thing with a powerbook,
----> remember "butterfly uses a powerbook 12", i would not recomend 4 things to drag around, even the AEBS alone is about 3/4 th the size of the powerbook alone, imagine adding a keyspan. sorry we miss-understood. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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