[pn_md]

I have been using my Dell Pentium 1.8Ghz PC machine for the past 2 years. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
I dug up my old blue 400 mhz Powermac G4 about a month ago and re-fell in love with Apple. I wanted to try out Panther OSX with my G4 and just love it. High lickability factor. As Steve Jobs would say /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
After watching Steve Jobs' recent Macworld speeches I decided I needed a new Dual G5. Boy, he is good at selling! A master.
So my question is do I really need a Dual G5? I have always wanted to get into shooting movies. And Final Cut Pro 4 is gaining significant recognition in NLE field, film editing. Check out Cold Mountain. I am looking into getting the new Panasonic DVX100A pro camcorder to shoot my own movies. But I have not purchased one yet. Still deciding if I'll have the time to get into movie/ film hobby.
http://www.dvxuser.c...bin/DVX/DVX.cgi
So do I really need a Dual G5? Are there any foreseeable upgrades to the G5 in near future? I know, that is always the dilemma with any computer purchase... /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Dual G5- Techno-need or Techno-lust? /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
BTW- anyone have the Macmice, the mouse?

[Nobody]

There is supposedly a G5 update that is supposed to occur at any time now.
However, as the owner of a dual 2.0 G5 I can tell you that this machine rocks in every conceivable way.
If the price isn't for you, an older PowerMac ought to suit you fine.

[MacDancer]

I'm buying a new computer too, a Mac of course, and I'm about 90% sure it's gonna be a 1.8ghzDP G5. I was thinking to get the 1.8ghzSP G5, but when I saw that the cheapest one left that I could be reasonably sure I wasn't getting a bad deal on was only $100 less than my customized DP model, I decided that the DP would be better. Of course, one could just get a 1.6ghz model, but... Anyway, for your case, if you're going to do video, even if it is amateur, I would definitely suggest the DP. This is assuming you're on a somewhat similar budget to me (that is, you're sorta saving up for the computer, but don't really need the money now or in the foreseeable future). I dunno about if you don't end up doing video, but it might be nice to have the option at least, for the future. I know that I for one have about fifteen times (real estimate there. I think it's pretty accurate ) as much free time in the spring and summer as I do from October through December. You may have a similar set-up, or you may decide to drop something, or... well, I'm sure you know what life is like. I hope this has helped.

[digedit]

You'll definately benefit from the second processor if you will be working with video editing software most of the time. I'd go for the dual in this case for sure.

[JackMac]

You might also want to own a piece of history, and get a good deal besides
Check this out

[MacCheetah3]

HI
Not to sound against the whole "own a piece of history" idea but those are, even with them having double the standard RAM, are about $300 above regular the refurb price.
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[aliasfox]

Well, you might want to wait a little bit- the rumor sites have suddenly (and I mean suddenly) started up with an incredible number of rumors and information regarding the new 970FX chip running at up to 2.5 GHz- not to mention the remote chance that they'll incorporate Hypertransport 2 architecture into the new systems. Apple's not about to get pushed out of the limelight- not whith the amount of publicity it received last year.
As of this moment, Apple's probably waiting for the spring lines from ATi and nVidia to be unveiled (Apple rarely puts the same generation of graphics cards into significantly updated systems, and probably not now as its flagship system finally has a little bit of respect).

[pn_md]

aliasfox, thanks for the heads up on the potentially new G5. I can't wait to get my hands on a new G5 but if new one is on the way, I may have to wait a bit longer.
As for the Va Tech computers, it really is a good deal, IMO. I saw the Macmall stats and they were impressive but I'm going to get a new G5.
I can't wait to get a new G5 to join in on Apple's vision of the digital hub...
For example, Garageband looks to be an amazing software. I didn't realize so many people are using it. Check out this Wired article. Of course programs like these have been around for years but it took Apple to tell us that we NEEDED this sort of program
http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,62204.html


http://www.icompositions.com/
http://apple.slashdot.org/
BTW- aliasfox, where I can read more about G5 rumors?

[JackMac]

Not quite a rumor check this out from C/Net. New PowerPC chip

[RichL]

For what it's worth, I'm very happy with my Dual G5.
Machine does everything and more.
Edit video (FCE), burn DVDs, run games, has not missed a beat.
very fast, very trouble free.
Good luck with your choice, but Dual anything is the way to go..
RichL

[MacCheetah3]

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not to mention the remote chance that they'll incorporate Hypertransport 2 architecture into the new systems.

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Tuesday, February 10
Faster memory, HyperTransport will wait for PPC 975-based G5s: The big news of the week has definitely been the HyperTransport Consortium's announcement of its HT 2.0 standard, raising interconnect bandwidth for HyperTransport-based systems like Apple's PowerMac and Xserve G5s from 12.8GB/s to over 22GB/s.
As usual, some jumped to conclusions and speculated Apple had been holding back its new PowerMacs based on the PowerPC 970FX for this technology, but sources both at Apple and the HTC dismissed that idea, saying that implementation of the new standard is about six months away -- putting it alongside DDR533 memory as one of the key improvements we'll see on the 3GHz+ PPC 975-based Powermacs this August or September. Impressive technology, but not something we'll be seeing in stores right away.

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As for the Va Tech computers, it really is a good deal, IMO. I saw the Macmall stats and they were impressive but I'm going to get a new G5.

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A reader points us to MacMall where you can now buy one of the G5/2GHz DP systems used in the original Virginia Tech Supercomputer. The systems are factory refurbished by Apple, come in a 1GB/160GB/Superdrive configuration and are priced at $2799.00. You're paying about a $400 premium (not including the extra memory) over the price of a regular factory refurbished G5, but you will own a piece of history. Ground shipping is Free.

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[aliasfox]

That's why I said remote chance. After all, Apple's given us a few surprises in the past before.
Perhaps they're waiting for the release of the PCI-X graphics cards, too- ATi's bringing out PCI-X cards for spring- couldn't Apple get rid of the AGP bus then?

[MacCheetah3]

Hi
I never said HT 2.0 wasn't possible just agreed that it is about .0001% likely.
I've heard others question the same thing and read that even though PCI-X is fast, 8x AGP Pro cards and further AGP development still win.
MacCheetah3
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Apple Power Mac G4 Sawtooth 400MHz, 768MB, 80GB, DVD, Mac OS X
15GB iPod
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[jeffeyer]

I cannot imagine that Virginia Tech bought hundreds of G5 'desktop' servers. I think that it should have bought Xservers instead of G5 servers. A G5 computer contains 2 internal hard disk drives. The Xserver is better because of 3 internal hard drives, and it can be added in a rack along with Xservers - about 23 computers in one frame rack.
I don't understand the difference between Xserver and Xserver cluser node.