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iDVD4 quits after encoding?

#1 User is offline   RichL Icon

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Posted 21 February 2004 - 12:42 PM

Using iDVD4, on a PowerMAC Dual 2 G5. 1 GB Memory over 160GB left on a 250GB HD.
I created a movie using iMovie4, 1:38 minutes long, 23 chapter markers.
Click on iDVD through iMovie, set up the pages etc.
Complete DVD set up, "Status" menu states everything is complete. The stats show 3.3GB of 4GB used. Motion menu 2:11 used of 15, so everything looks good. Check "Best Quality" for encoding.
Put a blank DVD in the drive, Start the burn-----Step 1 & 2, no problem, Step 3 "Encoding Assets" takes a long time, then iDVD just quits with an "Unexpectedly quit" message?
Anyone have any idea why iDVD is quitting?
BTW, how many stages are there? What is "Stage 4"? How long does encoding take?
I did burn a 1:30 hour movie last week with about 12 chapter markers, no problem, so I don't understand why I can't get this one done?
Thanks to all...
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Posted 21 February 2004 - 01:17 PM

Hi Rich, I just had a the same thing happen on one of my projects (try #1) and mine was no where near as long as yours. I tried to start the burn process again, and got almost all the way thru step 4 (which is "multiplexing & burning" by the way), just to have a "error during disk burning" or something like that. I don't know, but it sure is frustrating, especially since it takes so long for the whole process. Well, two strikes now and still no hit, I'm going to try one more time and see if I can get it to work. I am also going to keep an eye on this post to see what others have to say.
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Posted 21 February 2004 - 02:07 PM

Hi Kazoo:
I just can't understand why the first movie I burned, burned with no problems???
This one isn't any diff???
I shut EVERYTHING else off, no screen savers, no internet connection, no "sleep" mode for either the HD or the monitor.
Only thing running is iDVD?!?!?
At least you made it to Step 4.....<smile>
Anyone out there got some ideas for me and Kazoo to look at???
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Posted 21 February 2004 - 02:24 PM

Kazoo:
I went into the systems logs and found the following:
Feb 21 17:09:49 localhost /usr/libexec/fixprebinding: /Applications/iDVD.app/Contents/MacOS/iDVD could not be launched prebound.
Feb 21 17:09:49 localhost /usr/libexec/fix
prebinding: The file /Applications/iDVD.app/Contents/MacOS/iDVD changed after the prebinding problem was noted.
Feb 21 17:09:49 localhost /usr/libexec/fixprebinding: 2004-02-21 17:09:49 -0500: prebinding for iDVD done.
Feb 21 17:11:49 localhost /usr/libexec/fix
prebinding: fix_prebinding quitting for now.

You got any idea what "prebinding" is???
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Posted 21 February 2004 - 05:15 PM

Kazoo:
What kind of MAC are you running???
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Posted 21 February 2004 - 08:36 PM

I have a G4 dual 867 MDD, with a newly installed superdrive. As for prebinding, lets see if I can explain it. From what I understand, the simplest answer is- it is a way for the application to "know" or "be linked to" the location of the resources it needs to run correctly, which allows it to launch faster. Here is a discription of what it is from an article I read-
"Long Answer
Under Mac OS X, a mechanism called prebinding is used to accelerate the launching of applications. Applications on Mac OS X, like applications on every other modern operating system, are composed of more than just a single file that is executed by the computer. Applications are built on top of libraries full of functionality. Some of the libraries are provided by the operating system vendor -- Apple provides more than 150 libraries in the default installation of OS X. Everything from Cocoa to Carbon to the Web Services API to the libraries used by iPhoto to talk to your mac.com account are implemented in libraries.
Instead of including the contents of the library into an application directly (a process known as static linking), a developer will cause their application to dynamically link the needed libraries. This has two very distinct advantages.
First, if five applications are currently running that all use the Cocoa framework (a framework is simply a mechanism that contains a dynamic library and all resources associated with the library in a single directory), the shared memory mechanism kicks in and all five applications share the same chunk of memory to hold a copy of the Cocoa dynamic library. Not only does this save memory, but applications that use the Cocoa framework that are launched after at least one app that uses the Cocoa framework has been launched will not have to load the Cocoa framework and, as such, will launch faster.
Secondly, when Apple ships a system update that upgrades the frameworks shipped with the system, applications that dynamically link against that framework (or library) will automatically take advantage of the new features or bug fixes provided in the new version of the framework or dynamically linked library."

Check out the whole article
here.
P.S.- I found this article when I was wondering the same question, I just did a google search for prebinding and this is just one of the ones that came up.
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Posted 22 February 2004 - 01:42 PM

Apparently, I am just one of MANY people who are having a problem encoding video using iDVD 4.
If you go Here you'll find loads of threads with the encoding issue.
I was advised by someone at this site to revert back to iDVD 3 and try that.
Since my G5 originally came with iDVD 3, I reloaded it and am in the process of "encoding assets" as I type this.
iDVD 3 seems to take LOTS longer than 4 does, but if I can get a successful burn I'm willing to wait.
That is until Apple fixes iDVD 4.
Will let you know how I make out.
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Posted 23 February 2004 - 01:32 AM

I've had iDVD freeze after burning, And I never know if the disc is good or not. I've taken it out and part of the dic play fine and others don't.
It is mighty frustrating as it take 5 + hours on my iMac. I am using Smartdisc DVD's i may go back to Apple. But it should not make a difference.
Can't use iDVD 3 as i like the menu effect and slide show effect in 4!
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Posted 23 February 2004 - 04:37 AM

Well I'm giving up on iDVD until they put out an update. 5 tries now, and still no luck. 3 times iDVD "unexpectedly quit" several hours into the burn process and 2 times I got it to go all the way to "step 4 multiplexing & burning" only to have an "error during burning" and getting a coaster, iDVD also freezes at this point and I have to force quit. HOW FRUSTRATING !! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif My new superdrive works great on everything else, I've burned several other DVD's (both data & video) from toast 6 and they work great.
I am also a little disappointed in the time it takes, granted I don't have the fastest mac out, but a dual 867 is not that bad, yet, my project is not even 1 hour long, and it takes almost 8 hours to get it to the burning point?! That just doesn't seem right. But oh well I'm not going to do anything more with iDVD until an update comes out, hopefully it will be before iLife 05.
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Posted 23 February 2004 - 12:18 PM

8 hours is a long time, even my iMac has not taken that long, even with a DVD with lots of menu transitions and and slide shows.
Does anyone know if iDVD uses both processor.
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Posted 23 February 2004 - 02:53 PM

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I am using Smartdisc DVD's i may go back to Apple


I've read in quite a few places that the type of DVD you buy IS important. Also, if one brand is not working for you, try another. Don't buy in bulk until you are sure they work for you.
I'm using Apple and Memorex DVDs and I've had no media problems.
I agree with your sentiments on iDVD3 vs iDVD4. I was able to finally burn the movie I had been working on in iDVD3, minus a few of the nice-a-ties iDVD 4 offers.
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Posted 23 February 2004 - 03:02 PM

Kazoo:
At least I haven't made any DVD coasters....yet!! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I was able to reduce the size of my movie, and launch iDVD 3, and successfully burn it!! However, I had to remove a couple of effects that iDVD 3 just did not offer.
I'm going to try and burn the same, reduced size movie with iDVD 4 and see if it works. I'm wondering if the size of the movie matters?
You mention you've burned some movies using toast?
Did you create the movies in iMovie or FCE? Did you then export to what??? format and burn the DVD so it would play on a standard DVD player??
Since you by-passed iDVD, I assume it's a straight movie..no chapter markers or other stuff?
iDVD 3 did work...takes lots longer to encode.
I'm starting to think about DVD Pro.
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Posted 23 February 2004 - 04:25 PM

Rich,
There are two movies I have burned with toast so far, both copies (1- commercial and 1- not) I used DVDbackup to rip them from their original dvd's, and burned them with toast. I have also been looking at trying dvd2one for back up of some of my other commercial dvd's, but I don't have the money for that just yet. They want 50 euro's for it which translates to around $62 right now, a little pricey for my taste for what it does.
I have also burned several data dvd's with no problem. I have gotten a little busy with my work lately, so I have not had time to do much else with the dvd burner, but so far I love it.
My problem with iDVD is that I have version 2 that came with my computer, so I don't have access to version 3. I don't think I'll mess with trying to do this project in 2, I'll just wait for an update.
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Posted 23 February 2004 - 04:46 PM

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I used DVDbackup


I use that myself and have also looked at dvd2one as well. Yes, I don't like the price or using my credit card for overseas transactions.
If you find anything else with the same functionality, better price, let me know.
I gotta tell you, iDVD 4, in conjunction with iMovie 4 is really very cool....when it works!! I was able to set up chapter markers and screen graphics and everything on my first burn. Turned out a very cool, very functional DVD.
Let's hope Apple fixes it soon!!!!
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