[JaneC]

Hi. Any one can help? After I installed PantherX (I do a clean install, format the HD) But now I found that alots of software I used only can run under Os9/classic. I have OS9.2.2 installation disk with me, so when I put the disk in, It ask me to select which HD to install. I only have one HD so i after I select, It asked me to do a clean install for Os9.2.2. I can't do that right? Coz it will format my pantherX right? I want pantherX be my main OS and classic is only for me to use when I need for certain software application.
Now I am stuck don't know how to install the OS9.2.2 or not? Please help me! I need to do works using classic.
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[macnuke]

ideally, you would have partitioned the HD. this would allow a more useful and practical install for 9 and X.
unfortunate that Apple doesn't day this right up from in the directions. I like most enthused buyers of X simply went sraght to X and then had to remove it all and partition. then install X on the boot partition, install 9.x.x on the second partition, then restore all software and data.
just plan on burning alot of CDs backing everything up, wipe the drive, partition it, and re-install all your stuff. do it now, do it asap. otherwise, like myself and others, you will accumilate many megs of "stuff" that you do not wish to lose and require even more burning. you will be happier the sooner you take the time to do it.
luck to you
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[Grant_G]

Sorry, but balderdash!
A clean install in OS 9 is NOT the same as a clean install in OS X. You may safely clean install OS 9 on your Panther drive and nothing will be erased. An OS 9 clean install is generally analogous to "archive & install" in OS X, and doesn't erase anything, it simply replaces the old System Folder -- if there is one -- which is then renamed "Previous System Folder." In Jane's case, there isn't one, so she'll only end up with one.
The first time you start up Classic after the OS 9 installation, you'll receive a dialog box telling you that it isn't properly configured, and ask if you want to. Click "yes" or "okay." That's it.
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[macnuke]

ok.. i missed that one.. besides, i never said anything about "clean install"..
also, can you start your OS 9 WITHOUT the system ever seeing X? allowig your Mac to run ALL the apps that won't run under X, but do under 9 ?
just a thought.. but i still may be mistaken.
luck with it anyway.

m

[JaneC]

Thanks for your info. Even I don't quite understand but at least when I need some one to help me, you reply me.
Actually I already do somethings stupid when I clean install my imac to pantherX, I need not backup my itunes files and others (Coz. I don't know how to) and I also don't know how to partition a 2nd HD.
I will consider to do partition next round. Can you teach me how to do that? I don't want to loose all my files again when I spent so much time to download/save. And what should I need to buy?

[JaneC]

Grant. I want to say THANKS many times to you. Coz you always help me to solve my problem. I followed your instruction and finally got it done, I installed the OS9.2.2 ! But I faced some problem again. (please forgive me, I cause everyone so much trouble to help me)
My new problem, it quite mess up but I try to explain it that everyone can understand.
1) After I installed OS9.2.2 I go to PantherX and install software for OS9 used (such as photoshop6, freehand9 etc.) Forgot to mentioned, I create a empty folder in the Mac Hd folder and install all the software in it.
when I launch Classic to use, no problem everythings work out fine. I can create new page to work and save. But if I go startdisk to restart the OS to OS9.2.2, when I click photoshop6 or other software mentioned above, It said "The alias adobe photoshop6 could not be opened, because the original item cannot be found. I can only choose following 3 buttons "Delete Alias" or "Fix Alias" or "Ok" I choosed "Fix Alias" and ok I can log into photoshope, but because it was my first time to use photoshop6 after I installed, a message said: "Couldnot synchronize the color settings because the color settings file could not be found" I just click ok and I can go into photoshop and use it smoothly. But I would like to know why there's this message and will it effect my work later on?
2) I installed HP Deskjet810C printer driver for OSX and I can do a align, test print with no problem appear. But When I open the photoshop or other software in Panther using the Classic it can't let me do printing! It said: Under chooser cannot loacte my printer. Even if I restart my mac in Os9 and use the software, it still can't locate my printer (I use the chooser, but my printer HP Deskjet810C was not there) How come? I already installed the driver successfully.
3)In Os9 how can I create the simple chinese/traditional chinese text icon on the top right hand corner. I need to use illustrator for typing chinese character and this icon got to be appear if not I can't do the hand writing chinese character on my illustrator file.
Need to trouble everyone AGAIN.. so SORRY..

[Grant_G]

1) Sounds like you did all the right things. What has happened is that your preferences are gone from the old Photoshop installation, so you have to set up new ones. It takes a little time, but it's part of growing into OS X.
2) Your printer is still there, but like above, your new OS 9 doesn't know it. In addition to its OS X driver, you must also install the OS 9 driver, preferably while booted into OS 9 (not in Classic, but it might work). If you don't have the driver, you should be able to locate it on HP's website.
3) Sorry, not familiar with Chinese characters, or with Illustrator either.
macnuke
I apologize if I came off a little blunt before -- I just wanted to make sure JaneC saw it. In answer to your next question, yes, you can still boot into OS 9 if your Mac is OS 9 bootable ... just like before. That didn't change with Panther. I think the confusion comes with the new Macs like mine that only boot into OS X. They come with a special Classic shell that works just fine, but you cannot boot into OS 9.
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[TheGreatZambini]

Ok, this is my first post here. I was searching for this problem, because I'm having it as well.
I wanted to ask for a quick clarification:
I recently did a clean OS X 10.3 Panther install (reformat, install), upgrading from 10.1.5. I assumed (incorrectly) that 10.3 would carry with it Classic support. Obviously, it doesn't, and I just found that out tonight!
I have two partitions: one for Applications and one for Files. OS X is installed on the Applications volume. If I take my old Power Mac G4 Mac OS 9 Install CD and do a "clean install" of 9.2.2 onto the Files volume, will it erase any data from said volume during it's "clean install?" And will I subsequently be able to run Classic from the Files volume?
It sounds like the answer to both of those questions is yes, but I am weary of doing a "clean install" onto my Files volume for fear of losing data. There's definately space on the volume for OS 9, so that's not a problem.
Thanks,
Zambini, The G.

[SueG]

You can install OS 9 on either partition without problems. OS 9 and OS X coexist peacefully on the same partition because the system folders have different names. Additional installations of another OS X or classic OS should be installed on a different partition. OS 9 will install in it's own folder and will not disturb your other folders or files.
Where ever you put classic, tell OS X where to find it in the System Preferences accessed from the Apple menu.

[TheGreatZambini]

OK, great!
So, now I tried to install OS9.2.2, and I can't because the OS9 install CD doesn't see any mounted volumes. I tried using DiskUtility on the install CD to mount the volume(s), and it says that it can't mount them.
Any ideas?

[Grant_G]

Okydoke, how did you do this? Will your Mac still start up in OS X Panther? If so, insert the OS 9 CD while you're in Panther, do a restart and hold down the letter 'c' key until you see the happy Mac face. That should boot you into the OS 9 CD's system folder, and you can install from there.
If you're saying that the OS 9 CD is the active system, but can't mount the volumes, then there's something wrong either with the CD or the System Folder on the CD. Is this the CD that came with your PowerMac, a retail version of OS 9, or did it come with a different Mac? If the latter, it might not be compatible with your PowerMac.
If you're saying that your Mac won't boot at all any longer, then there's more wrong than just worrying about OS 9 for right now. You need a stronger utility than Disk Utility, and I'm afraid that means spending some money. My #1 suggestion would be DiskWarrior 3.0.1. It repairs just about any directory damage imaginable, and that would be the most likely culprit.
Get back to us on any of these issues if need be.
G

[TheGreatZambini]

Right. Sorry about the lack of details!
OSX (10.3.3) works great.
I put in the "Power Mac G4 OS 9 Install" CD, which came with my Power Mac G4 Quicksilver 2002 933MHz when purchased new.
So, the CD was in the drive, appeared on the OS X desktop, and I restarted. While it booted up, I held down "C" until the tiled "CD" background came up, and OS 9.2.2 was booted from the CD.
Then, I opened the OS Installer Application, and when I came to step two, wherein I am to select a destination volume, no volumes were available for installation. A message read that there were no mounted volumes. I ran Disk Utility to possible mount one of the partitions on my hard disk, and was told that no volumes were mountable.
I thusly restarted into Panther.

Muchas gracias por the quick replies!
This is incouraging!

[Grant_G]

Long shot -- did you repair permissions after installing Panther? If not, give it a try at [OS X partition] > Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility. In the left panel, click on the description of your OS X Panther partition (this won't work if you click anything else). Once you have selected the correct one, you'll see options become available in the right panel. Disregard "Verify" and click on "Repair Permissions." It takes a few minutes.
Once done, try the OS 9 CD again and see if it recognizes you now.
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[TheGreatZambini]

Yeah, I've just done that recently. I try to make it a bi-weekly routine. I usually boot from the Panther CD so I can Repair both partitions.
In fact, Repairing permissions was one of the things I did the other day when I was trying to install OS 9.