[icu400]

Ok, now. In the past I have performed clean installs of os 9 and 8 on older machines for others. That was simple enough. But I have never done so with OS X.
What I want to know is:
1) How do I erase the old system from the new powerbook? Boot off the system cd and use disk utility to wipe the disk?
2) Is all I need to install all the software and system the system 10.3 disk? Is there something else I need to install all the apple software, perhaps software restore disks that came with my imac? How does all that work?
If someone could just explain this for me I would appreciate it. Thanks.

[Praxis]

The PowerBook already has OS 9? Why wipe it? When you install OS X, it'll install it seperately, and at any point you can restart and be in OS 9, or restart and be back in OS X.
If you really want to get rid of OS 9, there's two ways.
1) When installing OS X, tell it to zero the hard drive (one of the options). That'll format the HD and get rid of everything.
2) Install OS X, and you'll have both OS 9 and OS X installed. Once you're in OS X, get the OS 9 folder, and drop it in the trash. Empty the trash.
Either way is pretty easy /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[icu400]

I don't know how they are going to send the computer to me, but I would like to set it up how I like with languages and everything. Or is it just easier to leave it alone? I don't need OS 9 at all, I doubt it will come with it though.
My main question though is if I decide to go the route you suggested and zero all data and then install, what will I do to reinstall all the programs? Do things like safari, mail, dvd player, ical, iphoto etc. come as part of the OS?
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[Grant_G]

Re: 1) It's called Erase and Install. It's the same as a routine reformatting prior to installation, however, it DOES NOT zero all data. That generally takes hours and is a security precaution. Not necessary if all you want is to upgrade operating systems.
E & I will reformat the drive, erasing all current directories, and replace with a new one. Then it will install OS X and all its supporting stuff. You will have to install all your third party things from scratch. I agree with Praxis that you'll probably want to keep OS 9 on the system for at least a while though. So I would just do a normal install of OS X and make that my startup OS.
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[Grant_G]

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Do things like safari, mail, dvd player, ical, iphoto etc. come as part of the OS?

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Yes.
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[icu400]

Just out of curiosity, why would having OS 9 there be a benefit? I haven't used it in anyway in the past year on my imac, which dual boots into 3 other versions of OS 9 (its pretty cluttered over here). Is there some benefit to it that I don't know about? I don't even use classic mode ever. You have to have os 9 actually installed to use classic don't you?
Anyway, thanks for the advice, that was what I was needing to know (and yeah, I get what you mean about zero all data and just reformat, the old stuff that was on there will be replaced later by my other stuff so I am not too worried about it)

[Grant_G]

I was just making an assumption that you probably have some OS 9 stuff on the iMac that you wanna keep, sorry. It really isn't necessary at all that you keep 9 on the new machine. Also, I have an idea that the person whom you're buying it from has already wiped the drive clean and probably zeroed all data. Just the prudent thing to do in our day and age. I even went so far as to do a low-level format on my Cube when I wiped it because it had years of Quicken data on it.
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[Praxis]

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Do things like safari, mail, dvd player, ical, iphoto etc. come as part of the OS?

Yes.
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NO. Safari, Mail, DVD Player, Internet Explorer, Chess, etc all come with the OS. The iLife bundle (iPhoto as you listed there, iDVD, iMovie, and GarageBand) do NOT come with the OS. They come free with all new Macs, but they cost $50 to buy iLife '04 off the Apple store if you don't get free with a new Mac.

[Praxis]

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Just out of curiosity, why would having OS 9 there be a benefit? I haven't used it in anyway in the past year on my imac, which dual boots into 3 other versions of OS 9 (its pretty cluttered over here). Is there some benefit to it that I don't know about? I don't even use classic mode ever. You have to have os 9 actually installed to use classic don't you?

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OS X loads up the core files from OS 9, so you basicly have a stripped-down OS 9 running alongside OS X and can run OS 9 programs (called Classic mode).
No OS9, no classic, therefore you can only run OS X programs.
I assume your client likely has OS 9 programs still.

[nelson92]

I beg to differ. Installed Panther yesterday and iMovie was definitely in the package.

[ALG]

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The iLife bundle (iPhoto as you listed there, iDVD, iMovie, and GarageBand) do NOT come with the OS.

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Well actually you are half right. I have Panther running on this G4. Bought it from Apple Store (Educational discount) and I have both iMovie and iPhoto. I did not by any extra nor do I own iLife. so the only thing I am missing that I might use is iDVD.

[d00d]

I think Panther came with an older version of iPhoto and iMovie if I remember correctly.

[Praxis]

Right. It has the free versions (iMovie 3 and iPhoto 3) before iLife '04. And of course you get iTunes 3 but can download version 4.6 from Apple.
You won't have iMovie 4, iPhoto 4, GarageBand (in any form), or iDVD.

[d00d]

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iPhoto 3

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Slight correction: iPhoto 2. There was no iPhoto 3.