Okay, for those of you with CDs containing older versions (4.01 and 4.02), here's how to duplicate your bootable CD with a working copy of 4.03 (although it would be wise to keep a copy of the 4.03 updater handy).
You'll need Toast to do this, as it will not work with Disk Utility.
1. Insert your original TechTool CD.
2. Open Toast, and save an image of the CD. It will be "TechTool Pro 4 CD.toast"
3. Mount the image.
4. Run the updater. Ensure that it updates the image. You will be prompted to reboot after it's done.
5. Once you're logged in, eject the CD.
6. Now mount the image again (still saved wherever you chose to save it). You should see that the application in /Applications is v. 4.03.
7. Burn the image back to a blank CD using Toast.
8. Now restart from the CD. Voila! TechTool should be at v.4.03.
CAVEATS:
If you create a new eDrive, upon rebooting to it, TechTool will tell you that an improper installation was detected. No problem; insert your new CD to install a new copy. Then update it using the 4.03 updater. On the positive side, creating the eDrive installs a copy of Safari as it should.
YMMV.
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TechTool Bootable CD With 4.03: Success!
#2
Posted 29 August 2004 - 11:00 AM
Interesting, yet problematic. I have had issues with Micromat ever since they introduced TTP 4 last November (months behind schedule). The latest is with an existing eDrive on my wife's iMac (specs below). I updated her main HDD without any trouble, then it asked if I had other installations of TTP 4 to update. I clicked "yes" and it went back to the HDD again and offered no option to install it on the eDrive. I restarted to the eDrive and tried to copy the installer to it, and it said the operation would result in something I would not be able to see, and asked if I wanted to proceed. Again, I clicked "yes." This time it said the operation couldn't be completed.
So I hid TTP and opened a Finder window and found the updater on the main HDD and double clicked it. It proceeded normally until I said "yes" I want to install it on the eDrive and it is okay to close all running applications. It then gave the standard spiel that closing TTP would necessitate a restart to the main HDD and did I want to proceed. I clicked "cancel." I double clicked the installer again, got a "one moment please" window that lasted several minutes. Finally I had to force quit the installer. Then I had to force quit iTunes (why the hell was that open?) Then finally I force quit TTP. Everything stopped again, with that "one moment please" window once again open. So I force quit the Finder. When it relaunched, I was able finally to get out of the eDrive and back to sanity, leaving TTP 4.0.2 installed there.
The literature on Micromat's website clearly states that the 4.0.3 installer is capable of updating an eDrive. I don't think so, at least not in my case. Delete the eDrive and install another one? I don't think so with that option either. Just too much damned hassle. If I have to use TTP on the iMac, I think I'll just attach it to my external Firewire drive and do it the way I do it with the G5.
I wonder why Micromat can't do this easily, as Alsoft has done with DiskWarrior? Never a problem updating their way.
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So I hid TTP and opened a Finder window and found the updater on the main HDD and double clicked it. It proceeded normally until I said "yes" I want to install it on the eDrive and it is okay to close all running applications. It then gave the standard spiel that closing TTP would necessitate a restart to the main HDD and did I want to proceed. I clicked "cancel." I double clicked the installer again, got a "one moment please" window that lasted several minutes. Finally I had to force quit the installer. Then I had to force quit iTunes (why the hell was that open?) Then finally I force quit TTP. Everything stopped again, with that "one moment please" window once again open. So I force quit the Finder. When it relaunched, I was able finally to get out of the eDrive and back to sanity, leaving TTP 4.0.2 installed there.
The literature on Micromat's website clearly states that the 4.0.3 installer is capable of updating an eDrive. I don't think so, at least not in my case. Delete the eDrive and install another one? I don't think so with that option either. Just too much damned hassle. If I have to use TTP on the iMac, I think I'll just attach it to my external Firewire drive and do it the way I do it with the G5.
I wonder why Micromat can't do this easily, as Alsoft has done with DiskWarrior? Never a problem updating their way.
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#3
Posted 02 September 2004 - 07:56 AM
I too found problems updating the disk image. Everything proceeded smoothly until I went to run the updater on the disk image - I was not given the option to update that "disk" and since I had already updated the copy on my hard drive, the updater would not go any further. I agree with Grant - Micromat should do as Alsoft does and let us download an completely new version. - BTW, I ahve yet to succed in installing an eDrive successfully on my system, for reasons unknown to me. Pfui!
#4
Posted 02 September 2004 - 08:08 AM
For those who have heard me say this over and over and over for the last 4 or 5 years, I apologize in advance. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
The best thing you can do for your Mac is NOT use disk utility programs like TechTool, Norton and even DiskWarrior. And if you feel you MUST use them, DON'T install them. Just run them from the CD. The installed components have been proven to cause more problems than it's worth.
Though I know plenty of people use them every month with no problem, and they say how it always fixes their problems - I simply say that I haven't used a disk utility on a Mac in ten years, and I NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS that need fixing to begin with!
My "maintenance" is limited to running Disk First Aid once a month (sometimes only once every two months), make regular backups, and a full/clean install about once a year (usually upon the release of a major OS update. Erasing the HD and reinstalling all my apps (I don't even save the preferences) once a year takes much less time than the hour or so every month some people spend running disk defrags and "doctor" type apps, only to have the same problems or worse show up a week later. It also gives you the added benefit of getting rid of all the orphaned files and preferences for apps you don't even have installed anymore. The ONLY files I keep are my Mail folder, Safari Bookmarks and Cookies files and my Address Book files.
I realize that I have much more experience using the Mac than many "consumer" users, so it's easy for me to say "I don't have problems." But to be honest, consumer users who may only use Mail, Web and Office apps most likely shouldn't require the use of disk utilities to begin with - and should probably avoid them at all costs.
Just my 2 cents.
The best thing you can do for your Mac is NOT use disk utility programs like TechTool, Norton and even DiskWarrior. And if you feel you MUST use them, DON'T install them. Just run them from the CD. The installed components have been proven to cause more problems than it's worth.
Though I know plenty of people use them every month with no problem, and they say how it always fixes their problems - I simply say that I haven't used a disk utility on a Mac in ten years, and I NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS that need fixing to begin with!
My "maintenance" is limited to running Disk First Aid once a month (sometimes only once every two months), make regular backups, and a full/clean install about once a year (usually upon the release of a major OS update. Erasing the HD and reinstalling all my apps (I don't even save the preferences) once a year takes much less time than the hour or so every month some people spend running disk defrags and "doctor" type apps, only to have the same problems or worse show up a week later. It also gives you the added benefit of getting rid of all the orphaned files and preferences for apps you don't even have installed anymore. The ONLY files I keep are my Mail folder, Safari Bookmarks and Cookies files and my Address Book files.
I realize that I have much more experience using the Mac than many "consumer" users, so it's easy for me to say "I don't have problems." But to be honest, consumer users who may only use Mail, Web and Office apps most likely shouldn't require the use of disk utilities to begin with - and should probably avoid them at all costs.
Just my 2 cents.
#5
Posted 02 September 2004 - 08:38 AM
Gizmo,
I'm enjoying your posts, and happy to have you with us. However, there just are too many schools of thought on this issue, not the least of which is to not buy these utilities, because that's what the pros get paid for. Some of us can't afford to take our Mac to the doctor everytime it gets sick though. I for one have, for years, been happy to have these things available to me. And yes, I install some of them because of features they have that only the installed version can run, such as nearly continuous S.M.A.R.T. checking, or a directory check on boot, etc.
I have also consistently advised people NOT to run them on a regular basis in OS X. These aren't routine maintenance utilities, after all. They're heavy duty repair utilities needed only when repairs are found to be necessary. That said, I'm glad I have them on hand because I'd hate to be down for a day or four waiting for a CD to arrive. As for running them from the CD, not for me. Way way too slow. TTP for instance takes more than 5 minutes just to start up from the CD. Instead, I've installed a barebones system on a partition of a Firewire drive, and added both TTP and DW to it. Works like a charm.
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I'm enjoying your posts, and happy to have you with us. However, there just are too many schools of thought on this issue, not the least of which is to not buy these utilities, because that's what the pros get paid for. Some of us can't afford to take our Mac to the doctor everytime it gets sick though. I for one have, for years, been happy to have these things available to me. And yes, I install some of them because of features they have that only the installed version can run, such as nearly continuous S.M.A.R.T. checking, or a directory check on boot, etc.
I have also consistently advised people NOT to run them on a regular basis in OS X. These aren't routine maintenance utilities, after all. They're heavy duty repair utilities needed only when repairs are found to be necessary. That said, I'm glad I have them on hand because I'd hate to be down for a day or four waiting for a CD to arrive. As for running them from the CD, not for me. Way way too slow. TTP for instance takes more than 5 minutes just to start up from the CD. Instead, I've installed a barebones system on a partition of a Firewire drive, and added both TTP and DW to it. Works like a charm.
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#6
Posted 02 September 2004 - 10:21 AM
Gizmo,
I alos must take exception with your advise. However I recognize that you have much more experience on a Mac than I do. However I administer a homogeneous network with endusers using all degrees of Macs and PCs. I find many uses for both TTP & DW. I have never been a fan of Norton. I will however say back in the days of the 486/586 Disk Doctor was the most comprehensive utility around.
However I do agree that a lot of endusers over use utilities if they have access to them.
I alos must take exception with your advise. However I recognize that you have much more experience on a Mac than I do. However I administer a homogeneous network with endusers using all degrees of Macs and PCs. I find many uses for both TTP & DW. I have never been a fan of Norton. I will however say back in the days of the 486/586 Disk Doctor was the most comprehensive utility around.
However I do agree that a lot of endusers over use utilities if they have access to them.
#7
Posted 02 September 2004 - 03:27 PM
In reply to:
there just are too many schools of thought on this issue,
Yeah, it's really a decision based on "your experience may vary" type of thing. One one hand, you have someone like me who used them a long time ago and had nothing but problems and when I stopped using them, my problems went away. On the other hand, you have someone like yourself who doesn't necessarily have problems often, but when he does, these utilities fix them.there just are too many schools of thought on this issue,
Then of course there are people who just completely enjoy having problems because it makes them feel special when they can pop in a disk and charge someone $60 an hour while he stares blankly at their screen for hours on end... in fact, I believe they actually create these "problems" just for the job security... I believe those people are called IT Associates, or some such nonsensical title /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
That being said, if I were to ever use a disk utility, it would be Disk Warrior. No application with the name NORTON or Symantec will EVER touch my Mac again... EVER!
#8
Posted 02 September 2004 - 03:33 PM
In reply to:
I believe those people are called IT Associates, or some such nonsensical title
I believe those people are called IT Associates, or some such nonsensical title
Unless you are working for yourself believe it or not most IT Assocs. are basically lazy and hope nothing ever breaks. Now if you are a contractor then you try to get the machine in the shop so that while you are charging one customer 60 an hour to run the disk utility you are physically working on another machine and charging that customer 60 dollars an hour as well. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
#9
Posted 03 September 2004 - 05:08 AM
In reply to:
No application with the name NORTON or Symantec will EVER touch my Mac again... EVER!
No application with the name NORTON or Symantec will EVER touch my Mac again... EVER!
LOL. Symantec appears to be in agreement -- they've stopped developing "repair" utilities for the Mac and I suspect will stop supporting them fairly quickly too. It looks like we'll just have to get along with NAV by itself from now on. Sigh!
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