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iPod battery 'life'
#1
Posted 10 October 2004 - 09:35 AM
so i bought my second ipod in december... a 10gb ipod (right before they updated to a 15gb)..
less then a year in, I can barely get 3 hours of battery life.. .I've legitimately tried testing this numerous times... charging throughout the night... and then literally playing 'all songs' until it dies....
any ideas as to what to do? will apple help me out, or am i just going to have to buy a new battery? i don't have a warranty of any kind. but i think seeing as though this ipod is less then a year old and i spent 400 (Canadian) on it.. i deserve a little better.
any thoughts?
less then a year in, I can barely get 3 hours of battery life.. .I've legitimately tried testing this numerous times... charging throughout the night... and then literally playing 'all songs' until it dies....
any ideas as to what to do? will apple help me out, or am i just going to have to buy a new battery? i don't have a warranty of any kind. but i think seeing as though this ipod is less then a year old and i spent 400 (Canadian) on it.. i deserve a little better.
any thoughts?
#2
Posted 10 October 2004 - 05:43 PM
I feel your pain. Not quite the same though, I have a first gen 5 GB ipod. I use a griffen iTrip fm transmitter to listen to whatever I want on any radio anywhere /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. It works out real well, very handy. I'm getting 1.5-2 hours out of a 'full' battery. I know the transmitter uses some of my juice and my pod has an older battery (I didn't use it for the first year, I was in the hospital). I don't know if the ipod charger changes/switches the power to a lower power after the ipod's battery system fills up with power./forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif I don't think mine does, it gets hot after it stays plugged in. I also don't know if the ipods battery is the type that retains its elasticity, ie the maximum charge becomes less after it is overcharged or re-charged before fully dis-charged.
I bet apple will say you need to buy a new battery ($99 us). you'll need to call them @ 800-275-2273 and they'll send a package for you to pack and ship your ipod out for them to replace the battery (no apple dealers have the equipment to swap your battery /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. I would talk to all sorts of people who might be able to help you get you ipod replaced; applecare reps, apple dealers, any stores who sell ipod (best buy, whoever).. I mean, you just bought your iPod 9 months ago! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
I bet apple will say you need to buy a new battery ($99 us). you'll need to call them @ 800-275-2273 and they'll send a package for you to pack and ship your ipod out for them to replace the battery (no apple dealers have the equipment to swap your battery /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. I would talk to all sorts of people who might be able to help you get you ipod replaced; applecare reps, apple dealers, any stores who sell ipod (best buy, whoever).. I mean, you just bought your iPod 9 months ago! /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
#4
Posted 11 October 2004 - 07:24 PM
Hi
I'm assuming by your description you're using a 2nd Gen. The one right before they went to all touch sensitive buttons and the dock connector...The last to use the actual FireWire port to connect and not the dock connector.
Anywho. If that's true and I think OWC does ship International, than you should be in luck. I'd say the battery is just getting old and iPod batteries are pretty cheap nowadays, outside Apple.
If it is just a simple currency conversion, than you can get an Ultra High Capacity 1st/2nd Gen iPod Battery (up to 21 hours playtime) for ~$80CAD. That even includes shipping, instructions, and a disassembly tool!
If you need any excuse outside of that, it would extremely up the resale value, IMHO.
MacCheetah3
Apple PowerBook G4 Titanium 1GHz, 1GB, 60GB, SuperDrive, Airport, Mac OS X, 20GB iPod (4G)
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I'm assuming by your description you're using a 2nd Gen. The one right before they went to all touch sensitive buttons and the dock connector...The last to use the actual FireWire port to connect and not the dock connector.
Anywho. If that's true and I think OWC does ship International, than you should be in luck. I'd say the battery is just getting old and iPod batteries are pretty cheap nowadays, outside Apple.
If it is just a simple currency conversion, than you can get an Ultra High Capacity 1st/2nd Gen iPod Battery (up to 21 hours playtime) for ~$80CAD. That even includes shipping, instructions, and a disassembly tool!
If you need any excuse outside of that, it would extremely up the resale value, IMHO.
MacCheetah3
Apple PowerBook G4 Titanium 1GHz, 1GB, 60GB, SuperDrive, Airport, Mac OS X, 20GB iPod (4G)
Debug Computer Services http://www.click2debug.com
#5
Posted 11 October 2004 - 07:30 PM
Since you are inside of a year, you should have full manufacturers warranty. I would call Apple and see what they can do for you. if you are within the first year, I also highly recommend AppleCare (must be bought when the original warranty is still active) for your iPod. If you are a student or educator, you can get a discount. If not, it is still fairly reasonable.
#6
Posted 11 October 2004 - 08:03 PM
I agree with the previous poster - that the iPod AppleCare is a bargain for students and non-students. I got it for my new 4G 40GB, and even without the discount, you'd end up paying less than if you went and replaced the battery through Apple ($99 I think?).
#8
Posted 11 October 2004 - 08:11 PM
Hi
But if you read Apple's print than you'll see that they don't have to, and probably won't, return your specific iPod but probably a factory refurbished one. That part really bothers me as I take stupendous care of my tools/toys .
Apple - Support - iPod - Out-of-warranty Battery Replacement Program - FAQ
MacCheetah3
Apple PowerBook G4 Titanium 1GHz, 1GB, 60GB, SuperDrive, Airport, Mac OS X, 20GB iPod (4G)
Debug Computer Services http://www.click2debug.com
But if you read Apple's print than you'll see that they don't have to, and probably won't, return your specific iPod but probably a factory refurbished one. That part really bothers me as I take stupendous care of my tools/toys .
Apple - Support - iPod - Out-of-warranty Battery Replacement Program - FAQ
MacCheetah3
Apple PowerBook G4 Titanium 1GHz, 1GB, 60GB, SuperDrive, Airport, Mac OS X, 20GB iPod (4G)
Debug Computer Services http://www.click2debug.com
#10
Posted 12 October 2004 - 12:05 PM
Actually, you don't get your original iPod back even if it's engraved. Apple's FAQ reads:
[indent]In reply to:
Will my custom laser engraving be preserved?
If your original iPod was personalized by Apple, your replacement iPod will be automatically personalized with same text. If your original iPod was custom laser engraved by another company, your replacement iPod will not be personalized.
[/indent]
My understanding was that in the case of an engraved-by-Apple iPod, Apple pulled the back plate off your old iPod and put it on the replacement. This may well have been the policy with old iPods, but it appears that the iPod's serial number is going to play a part in some future Apple scheme (as evidenced by the Serial Number test within the 4G iPod's diagnostic screen). That serial number appears on the back plate of all iPods. It would confuse things to put an old back plate on a different iPod.
Chris
[indent]In reply to:
Will my custom laser engraving be preserved?
If your original iPod was personalized by Apple, your replacement iPod will be automatically personalized with same text. If your original iPod was custom laser engraved by another company, your replacement iPod will not be personalized.
[/indent]
My understanding was that in the case of an engraved-by-Apple iPod, Apple pulled the back plate off your old iPod and put it on the replacement. This may well have been the policy with old iPods, but it appears that the iPod's serial number is going to play a part in some future Apple scheme (as evidenced by the Serial Number test within the 4G iPod's diagnostic screen). That serial number appears on the back plate of all iPods. It would confuse things to put an old back plate on a different iPod.
Chris
#11
Posted 12 October 2004 - 12:06 PM
i just purchased the 4 gen 20g ipod. i encode at 160kbs aac and currently use the stock headphones. the volume is set around 50% max.
i am only get about 5hrs out of a full charge.
i know that the higher bit rate will decrease battery life but i didnt think it would reduce it by 50%.
i have followed the instructions from apple's website on how to max battery life to no avail.
any suggestions or do i have a bad battery?
i am only get about 5hrs out of a full charge.
i know that the higher bit rate will decrease battery life but i didnt think it would reduce it by 50%.
i have followed the instructions from apple's website on how to max battery life to no avail.
any suggestions or do i have a bad battery?
#13
Posted 12 October 2004 - 03:26 PM
I believe the re-engraving is new. Way back in the first or second edition of Secrets of the iPod I found a technical note that spelled out how engraved iPods were treated differently. At that time, the back was taken off an engraved iPod and plunked onto a different iPod.
It's never been the case that you get your original iPod back. Apple has a pile of bad iPods and a pile of refurbs. When you send in an iPod, it gets tossed on the bad pile and you're given a refurb. Your original iPod eventually gets refurbed (if it can be saved, of course) and then sent out to someone else.
It's all part of the great iPod circle of life.
Chris
It's never been the case that you get your original iPod back. Apple has a pile of bad iPods and a pile of refurbs. When you send in an iPod, it gets tossed on the bad pile and you're given a refurb. Your original iPod eventually gets refurbed (if it can be saved, of course) and then sent out to someone else.
It's all part of the great iPod circle of life.
Chris
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