[RudolphRed]

"The Mac user base has increased substantially since the success of the iPod"
Surely, this cannot be - see what a great authority on the subject wrote yesterday
http://abcnews.go.co...story?id=365901

[Nobody]

I always wonder, would i rather write for a mess like windows and compete with hordes of developers writing the same app or write for the Mac OS--well designed with good tools and only compete with a few developers.
We all know you can get 50 versions of the same thing on windows or pick from 2 good versions of on the mac.
It seems the ROI would be just as good on the mac.
alan

[webgodjj]

So, your program isn't needed anymore... got an idea, let's just blaim everyone but ourselves. However, you should really look at what you could have done. End by saying my product has run it's course, and I'm leaving, thankyou for all you suckers that paid money for my poorly written program. If anyone could please send me money for glasses that would be great, my GUI design is rotten.

[macnuke]

my G3 233mHz beige DT came with 8.0
only thing buggier was any version of windows.
and yes, B&B was a great app back then.
but that being said....
you make a good product at a good price, and you stay in business.
when you sit around and let it fall to a not so great, overpriced product and then blame your customers for not buying it, so you are pulling it.. that smacks of microsoft.
so be it, see ya... there are plenty of errors and sheep over there.
i know it's NOT my fault
m

[jmincey]

I echo the sentiments of others who contend this company (or individual) should have left the Mac community with more grace and class. One never knows who one's future customers may be -- they could be former Mac users or even existing Mac users in a multiplatform environment -- so why risk offending them needlessly? Frankly, it's an immature reaction and unprofessional, not to mention false altogether.
I see no data that the Mac installed base is decreasing (and it's quite to the contrary), and moreover, it's quite interesting that this company stands by Apple through the System 7-9 days only NOW, with OS X, to complain about bad quality. Hello? This makes no sense and is obvious sour grapes.
The Mac is moving more and more into the server/enterprise arena and Apple is spoken of favorably in Windows-oriented IT journals. Given Apple's push for the XServe and system admin tools, to contend that NOW the Mac market is unsuitable for a utility in this product category is so absurd as to be unworthy of refutation.
I agree also with another poster in this thread who contends that this is essentially a non-story. The developer is utterly insignificant, (his longevity notwithstanding), and this product serves a niche of a niche of a niche (as previously noted). There are other Mac news stories (even today) which are more newsworthy than this.

[PSM]

Why even bother releasing version 10? Isn't that a strange thing to do?
"Here's a major upgrade of our software for you to buy. By the way, we hate you, our fickle thieving customers, Apple sucks, and we're never going to update it again." That's sure to sell lots of copies.

[RudolphRed]

You said
"I see no data that the Mac installed base is decreasing (and it's quite to the contrary)"
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He said
"Grim Macintosh Market Share Forebodes Crises"
John C. Dvorak
Dec. 28

http://abcnews.go.co...story?id=365901

[NordicMan]

I used Black&Bleu when I ran OS 8 and 9. I found it helpful at times, much more than Conflict Catcher, which was way over priced, in my view. It was a help to me, not a hindrance.
But I frankly haven't needed it for OS X, since 10.1.5. It seems to me like the Mac OS is a whole lot better, in terms of reliability and crashing, if not in quickness.
It is an odd thing to release a new version, and then to say that Apple doesn't care about its products. Sounds like a way to get off the ride.
Fare well, thanks for the help you sought to give. There is a big need for all kinds of help in the land of the evil empire miscrosoft.

[jmincey]

I'm not sure I understand your last post. Installed base and market share are not the same thing. What point are you trying to make?

[d00d]

1. Dvorak doesn't really reference any hard data. He makes vague reference to some statistic that he never gives a link or notes where he got it.
2. Dvorak is a known Mac platform detractor. He's declared the death of the Mac platform so many times (and given so many alternate reasonings) that most people (especially myself) just ignore him. He likes getting people riled up, not reporting anything of value.
3. Do you really buy any of his argument? People like complicated? That must be why people complain about being unable to operate their computer. It must also explain the utter success of the iPod whose strongest selling point in comparison to competitors is its simplicity.
I relegate that article to the trash can.

[Nobody]

3 things:
Its fine with me if the mac stays at 2.7 and charges more money. The larger profit margin allows Apple to create better products that I and others are willing to pay for. I also think with the gaining market share of the xserves it will help sway the opinion of IT and Bean Counters when its time to purchase client comptuers
1/2 thing: what about the imac g5 as a touchscreen for restaurants, kiosks, etc..
I don't think internet acdtivity is necessarily a reflection of installed base. At our shop we have g3s that are years old that produce but don't surf the net. If they were pcs they would have been on the scrap heap years ago.
That ppl. like complicated it only true of pathetic, dweebed out IT ppl. that feel more important if they understand more than the non dweebs, but it is a reason why windoze is chosen over mac.

cat

[multime]

What a joke.
This kind of crap is not what the mac platform is about.
It's fun to watch st being flusied down the drain /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[sdf]

I've never heard of this company. But it seems like in the last year we've gained a hundred developers, and some of those products I've not only heard of, but have at least tried out myself.
Seems like a good trade to me.

[Nobody]

Actually, if you go to the original article, he does give a link:
http://www.pcmag.com...3079TX1K0000584 but what makes it funny is he claims that he's getting his stats from the World Wide Web Consortium, when his link actually goes to some site called W3Schools, which, as far as I can tell, isn't related to the W3C in any way. His rants are as equally ill-informed and equally entertaining as 99% of the posters on this forum. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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