[TheTSArt]

I've never used a PC keyboard on a Mac, so I have no idea how they behave... do the Windows keys map out to the Apple keys? What about that start-button key (or whatever that thing is)?
After skimming through all of the posts here, I have to admit this reminds me a lot of the debate after the iPod mini came out and why it would never sell. I'm hoping the Mac mini shares a similar fate. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Tim

[LeoO]

I was wondering if I could easily transfer files between the Mac Mini and my pc easily and often, or would I have to use a program like move2mac every time?
You could network them up via Ethernet, no problem. A bit more work at first but once it's done, easy file transfers.
Or after downloading the iDisk Utility for Windows XP, you could just move files onto and off your iDisk, on either computer. Broadband would be a necessity for this, though.
I'd stick to an Ethernet network.

[LeoO]

the mini-itx motherboards, which are a similar form factor to the mac mini motherboards, as far as i can see, are rated around 1.25ghz processors, yet can barely run a program like quake 1, and with my slimline dvd player with it, the mini-itx motherboards arent even fast enough to VIEW dvds,
Wait a minute -- my 400MHz iMac G3 runs Quake 1 just fine, in OS9 or OSX, and does the same with DVDs.

[speleoterra]

If you did know everything, you would already know that Apple stock has consistently dipped right after a show, no matter what was featured. This is not new news or a indication of anything.

[Mac_Envy]

Wasn't it wall street that predicted google would flop on the market?

[chaos]

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Then again, I was wrong about the iPod mini. Seems there are a lot of idiots out there.

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Indeed. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Nobody]

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I, however, will save a boatload of desk space and over 47 POUNDS by getting the Mac mini.
Mac mini is about more than tech specs and features. It's about making the Mac experience easily accessible to those who already have a monitor, keyboard and mouse.

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Well said.
My neighbour has been thinking about a new computer, but was very hesitant. I told him about Macs, but at the old price, he felt safer with Windows because he uses Word and Internet Explorer. He doesn't need a powerful machine - just something for email and writing letters, balancing the chequebook.
He was not enthusiastic about Macs, even though he knew that Windows was a hassle. When the Mac Mini was announced, I printed out Apple's webpage for Mac Mini and Airport Express. He was breathtaken. While previously computers were a necessary evil, just looking at an inkjet printout of the Mac Mini caused him to freak out about Macs.
It was mainly because of the extremely compact size, and the fact that it can be hooked up to the TV as a DVD player and comes with imovie editing software. He was about to reluctantly buy a Windows machine, and suffer much pain. Instead, he has now set his sights on a Mac Mini, and looks like becoming a big Mac Fan.
Just an hour ago, he knocked on my door, excitedly explaining how "The new Mac is on the news after the ad break!!!!!" and running back to his TV set. Sure enough, on mainstream Australian TV - there was Steve Jobs flipping a Mini Mac around, the reporter announcing that Apple had achieved a "new revolution in affordable computers"
What the hell?
Did i mention that my neighbour is around 60 years old? Everybody wants a Mac, they just don't know it yet.

[osxholungman]

>Is that iRiver player rechargeable via USB (is it even rechargeable at all?)
>All the other flash players I've seen require batteries, so the iPod shuffle has a big advantage over
no, I don't think it is an advantage, since the built-in recharge battery of ipod is only good to charge 300 times, after that the charge will drop dynamicly, and you can only replace the built-in battery 10 times, after that the ipod case will be come loosen.
and the built-in battery is 10 times more epensive than any rechargeable AA battery, and if you always travel, you can't buy battery on the street.

[speleoterra]

This is a good point as the mini is not practical as a upgrade for bondi iMac & eMac owners.
There are plenty though on systems before 1997 that still have a monitor, new keyboard and you're all set. Clearly Steve went to the masses (PC) and asked, what would it take you to switch?, and the mini is the solution. It is nothing more than a entry level cross over platform. The other angle is all those PC ipod buyers who want the apple experience once they've tasted the iPod. Music, email, word processing and web. These people don't care about upgrading. Besides, they'll soon learn how long a Mac will out live a PC in return on investment so no need to upgrade other than eventually buy the next Mac up.

[bradleys]

"....Then again, I was wrong about the iPod mini. Seems there are a lot of idiots out there."
I think its a bit harsh calling them idiots....The iPod mini is cool, and as we all know, at the moment they are about as cool as cool gets.
Despite the fact that with minimal extra dollars you can buy another iPod (or competitor) with vastly better specs, cool has value to people and always has, even if not to the degree it has these days.
Back in the good old days (the 70's) when yo-yo's were the in thing, you could buy all sorts of makes and models, but only some were cool despite the fact that technically they were probably identical. If your yo-yo had the coke logo on the side, it was cool. If it had some no-name brand you were an uncool dawk!
The coke yo-yo was probably double the price of the others!!
Exactly the same can be said when frizbees were king...If you used the more expensive original frizbee brand it was cool, if you used the el-cheapo technically identical brand, you were a dawk!
The only product I can think of off the top of my head in this genre that doesnt follow the pattern was the Rubiks cube...but that was only because he made the mistake of not patenting it in time, and there was nothing that differentiated the original cool product from the el-cheapo dawk product....so you could be a cheapscate and get away with it /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Todays young people in particular live in a world where cool is king, from the clothes you wear to the mp3 player you use....the practicalities of price and specifications come a distant second! Are they idiots....no....its just the way things are today....certainly a different mindset to what I had at their age, but Im trying to avoid being an old sad-ass constantly referring to the "good old days" as if nothing should ever have changed /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Apple is simply tapping in, rather successfully, to the cool culture with cool products...it would be a flash in the pan if they were nothing but cool, but the specs are ok and for the vast vast majority of people are all they'll ever need.
I think the Mac Mini could have that cool factor....the Apple logo is certainly the flavour of the month....and it is technically a great, if not fastest in the world, machine. I doubt it will see Apples market share to double figures, but heck, 1% means billions of $$ to Apple.

[Shrek220]

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I think its a bit harsh calling them idiots

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Maybe...
Buying something that is inferior value in order to be seen as 'cool' certainly doesn't encourage the use of the term 'clever'. But, hey, Apple is doing well financially so ...
Maybe the same 'cool' factor will allow the mini to draw a heap of Windows converts over to the Mac. Of course, that seems to fly in the face of the Mac's legendary 'superiority' and instead depends rather on some fashion craze.
But, if it's bringing in the bucks for Apple, why should we knock it?
Why indeed.

[Rugby]

The media centre Mac Mini might be a reality when 3rd party developers have come up with cool products. I bet most of you out there have a Mac and a lot of 3rd party cool stuff. So even though there are things "missing" on the original product Ill bet there will be add ons to this product...

[time_bomb_W]

This thing looks like a winner to me!
In my company, just after the news spread, in 2 hours we got 4 person swear to buy it. And they're a mix of PC and mac users.

[Shrek220]

Quoted out of context. And thanks for the welcome.
Consider it noted Chaos. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif