[glynn]

I was wondering if it is possible to network my wife's OS9 G3 computer to my G5 OSX. I have tried to research installation guides for Apple Lynkys and Belkin none of which has any info that suggests it can be done. She will not give up OS9 and I would like her to drop dialup. I have broadband on my G5. Any help would be appreciated. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[car1son]

Is OS9 OSX filesharing what you want? Easily done.

[glynn]

Thank You, That was really helpful. Are all routers dependable? Any recomendations?

[JackMac]

I have been using a Linksys router for several years and it has been very reliable as long as I maintain the correct firmware. I have a wired network in my home with cable internet and most of the time I don't care about file sharing so each computer can connect as long as they use automatic DHCP IP addressing. At any time my son's eMac and my daughter's Thinkpad can be online.

[macnuke]

just a thought...
you didn't state what model/brand modem you have.
many high speed modems aslo have a router built into them.
routing a router is most difficult.. i am personally am aware.
if you have a router already built in, then get a SWITCH.. much better than a hub as collisions are less likely and data will transfer faster. and easier than a router to install when you are already routed.
I used a LinkSys 5 port switch for a long time until I had (wanted) wireless for my powerbook.
wireless is a router.. heh.. much probs there, but I did it with much help from one on these boards.
so it's used as a bridge and my modem is routing for 3 desktop (hardwired) macs and one wireless.
mho
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EDIT... the Switch is plug and play.. no software, no setup.. just turn on filesharing and Appletalk and set the OS9 machine to use DHCP (if that's your protocol)

[glynn]

Thank you fot the advice, But I am having trouble connecting the two Macs. One problem might be is in OS9. When I hit the chooser and click on appleshare nothing appears in the right column. (the diagram you supplied shows the word homebase). Also, how do change the IP adress? The only way I know is TCP IP and changing it manually. That doesn"t seem to work out either. In Appletalk the only choices I have are ethernet and remote only.(not ethernet built in) I hate to be so long winded but I would really like to get this up and running. I am using a Linkys wireless B broadband router and and a 3 Com broadband router. I would be grateful for any further advice.

[Reboot]

Why are you using two routers? What hooks to what and how, wireless and ethernet?

[macnuke]

as i said before, router into a router is hard.
but in your wifes machine.
to see the other Macs, they must have Filesharing ON and Appletalk ON also.
connect via ethernet. (probably DHCP auto all in your TCP/IP preferences
Chooser, open, select you Appletalk zone
if your wifes mac is compB and yours is CompA, then the name and passord for your wife to log into are CompA and teh password for compA
you won't "see" the hard drive of the others until you actually get logged into them.

[car1son]

The most straightforward solution is to eliminate one of the two routers, if it's convenient; presumably that would be the 3Com, since you are using the Linksys for WiFi access.
If you are going to continue using two routers, and want computers connected on one router to be able to a network successfully with computers connected on the other router, you are going to have to make some configuration changes to whichever router is furthest from your ISP/broadband modem. (in effect, you will be turning the second modem into a "bridge").
The two things you need to change (which are really the functions that make a router a router) is to disable NAT (Network Address Translation) and DHCP services on the second router.
Assuming your 3Com router is closest to your ISP/broadband connection, and you currently have the Linksys connected to the 3Com router, do this:
ISP <---> 3Com <---> LinkSys
Disconnect the Linksys from the 3Com router.
Use one of your Macs to connect to the Linksys configuration page ( http://192.168.1.1 ), and go to the DHCP tab. Disable DHCP.. (That will keep the Linksys from assigning IP addresses, so that the 3Com router will assign all your IP addresses and all your Macs will be on the same subnetwork, meaning their IP addresses all start with the identical first three components.)
Connect the Linksys to the 3Com router by connecting a LAN port on the Linksys to a LAN port on the 3Com router. That is, do not use the WAN port on the Linksys. That will bypass the NAT services that your Linksys router normally performs for the WAN connection.
If I have guessed wrong, and you have the Linksys connected directly to your ISP broadband service provider, a and the 3Com connected to the Linksys, then you exchanged the roles of the two routers in the configuration described above.

[glynn]

I wasn't aware I was using two routers. My G5 is plugged into a 3Com broadband modem through a Linksys router. Is the 3COM also a router? I also noticed that my G5 slowed considerably when hooked up to the Linksys router. As for the OS9 computer all of the settings that you suggested are correct. As for the passwords in both compuers,I don't remember them. Should I just change them to make sure they are the same? I the 3COM is also a router then that could be a factor like you had said.

[car1son]

What's the model of the 3Com ?
Is anything plugged directly into the 3Com other than the LinkSys?
Which Mac is wireless ?

[glynn]

The only information on the 3COM is the model #3CR29223. I don't know if that helps or not. As for the computers being wireless, I don't know. The G5 is a dual 1.8 and my wife's is a grey G4 tower.

[car1son]

OK, so you're not using WiFi; both Mac's are connected via Ethernet cable to the Linksys? (use said the Linksys was a be a router so I assume it was WiFi 802.11B).
Let me assume that both the OS 9 and OS X systems are connected to the Linksys router; that you have turned on File sharing services on each, per instructions. And that neither system can "See" the other in its respective network browser (OS 9 Chooser, OS X Finder/Network).
Some questions to troubleshoot the problem:
Is there a third party firewall software installed on either OS 9 or OS X machine? For example, NetBarrier or Norton?
Can a the OS 9 system browser access the Linksys administration page, http://192.168.1.1 ?

Can a the OS X system browser access to the Linksys administration page, http://192.168.1.1 ?
On the OS 9 system, open the TCP/IP Control Panel. I assume that has been set to Configure: using DHCP server. Examine the assigned IP address. It should be a value starting the 192.168.1.-- ; a value starting 169.--.-- .-- would be a bad sign (that's a "self-assigned IP address", and indicates the Mac didn't get an IP address from the Linksys DHCP server.) Make a note of that IP address and post back what it is.

On the OS X system (which OS X? 10.2? 10.3?), open System Preferences/Network pane, set Show: to Built-in Ethernet, and go to the TCP IP tab. Again, examine the assigned IP address . Like the OS 9 system, this address should start 192.168.1.--, and be different, slightly, from the OS 9 system's IP address. Likewise, a value starting the 169.--.--.-- would be a bad sign. Make a note of of this IP address, too, and post back what it is.
Still on the OS X system, try connecting to the OS 9 system by an IP address: in Finder, select Connect to Server from the Go menu. In the Connect to Server dialog, in the "Server address" field, enter "afp://os9.mac.ip.addr" providing the IP address you noted earlier for the OS 9 system. Then click "Connect" and see if that manages to get things going.

[Reboot]

It looks the only thing I can add is he should make sure OS 9 File Sharing has allow TCP/IP in the File Sharing control panel checked.