[Albertr]

I own a copy of Disk Warrior that I use from time to time. That software is of extreme importance to me. I could make a back up CD and use that but I would prefer to install it on an external HD. So far I was totally unsuccessful. I read in here a few times someone mention that they did just that. How do you do it exactly?

[JackMac]

Two questions:
1) What kind of connection is the hard drive USB or Firewire?
2) What model of Mac is this for?

[dougster]

Hi,
You haven't replied to -Jack's questions yet, but it won't work on an external USB hard drive, but it will if you use firewire flavor. Once you launch DW you will see the 'How to Install' in one of the Read-Me files. You drag the DW icon into your Utilities folder w/in your Applications folder. So you have to have an OS installed. I placed mine in the CarboncopyClone OSX of my master HD, and boot from that now for running DW.

[Albertr]

You drag the DW icon into your Utilities folder w/in your Applications folder. So you have to have an OS installed. I placed mine in the CarboncopyClone OSX of my master HD, and boot from that now for running DW.
Thanks. I use only firewire drives. So I have to install X on the external before installing DW on the external. Thanks again.

[macnuke]

another option...
i made a BootCD that had my current OS for booting along with DU and DW for repairs.
be advised, it isn't a fast boot.. it's painfully slow, but it works and you can always keep your original DW in it's case.. I made one for my powerbook to cut down on "stuff" to carry when I am traveling. and if lost/scratched/whatever, my original is home in the CD binder safe.

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[Albertr]

I went the easy way. I backed up into a firewire external drive using retrospect. Then I deleted everything I did not need. Copying for the DW CD to the external was normal. While before installing OS X, copying DW from the CD to the external resulted only in an alias on the external. Only DW behaves like that as far as I know.
1) Deleting stuff stupidly caused the loss of Xs preferences. I have no idea where this resides.
2) Since it is possible to boot from the DW CD why is the system necessary anymore once DW is copied to the drive?

[macnuke]

DW isn't the system.. and deleting stuff unknowingly makes X look for your deletions and act unfriendly.
as long as you have firewire drive.. after you have installed DW onto your main drive.. why not use Carbon Copy Cloner and just back up all yer main drive, have it not only bootable, but able to repair your main drive should it get screwed up.
make a partion just a tad bigger than your main USES.. not IS and use CCC to clone to it. just don't write into that partition afterwards.
its actually the easiest.
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[Grant_G]

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Since it is possible to boot from the DW CD why is the system necessary anymore once DW is copied to the drive?

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Because DW has a System on the CD. It has to have that to boot from the CD. But it's painfully slow, so that's why they're recommending you put it on a bootable Firewire drive instead.
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[nnager]

Another option is to create an eDrive (software equivalent of another hard drive) with TechToo Pro 4.0.3. Once the eDrive has been launched, click on its "drive" image and open its Applications folder. Then simply drag over DiskWarrior 3.0.2 from you hard drive's Applications folder and drag its icon down to your eDrive dock.
Although DW is an Alsoft product and TTP is Micromat's, DW plays as nicely when launched from the eDrive as TTP or Disk Utility. That's really handy for anybody with only one hard drive. And it's really fast to launch and use compared to a CD.
Respectfully, Norm

[Nobody]

If you are not interested in a full clone of boot drive on the external FW drive, you could start with a fresh but custom install of OSX onto the FW drive, such that bulk of the unnecessary items are excluded (various languages, printer descriptions etc.). Confirm that you can boot from FW drive and proceed to install DW normally and there is absolutely no reason why it should not work.
By the way, I am almost certain that the reason you ended up with an alias is because you forgot to open the DW disk and instead of copying the utility package, you inadvertently attempted to copy the entire DW volume (CD).
Good luck!

[Albertr]

as long as you have firewire drive.. after you have installed DW onto your main drive.. why not use Carbon Copy Cloner and just back up all yer main drive, have it not only bootable, but able to repair your main drive should it get screwed up.

Why would I use Carbon Cloner if I use Retrospect? What I have done satisfies me greatly since I am not going to use the drive as my main drive.

[Albertr]

Another option is to create an eDrive (software equivalent of another hard drive) with TechToo Pro 4.0.3. Once the eDrive has been launched, click on its "drive" image and open its Applications folder. Then simply drag over DiskWarrior 3.0.2 from you hard drive's Applications folder and drag its icon down to your eDrive doc
I love your idea! As luck would have it my TechTool Pro just arrived in the mail! I wanted to see if copying the CD to the external drive would work. It didnt in the same way DW didnt. It made a Alias too. I wasnt aware of this anomaly. To make a alias usually you do a command L. I will try your way too. But one of the reasons I wanted DW on an external HD is to be able to use it also on a PB. Thanks for the idea.

[macnuke]

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Why would I use Carbon Cloner if I use Retrospect? What I have done satisfies me greatly since I am not going to use the drive as my main drive.

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your previous post

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I went the easy way. I backed up into a firewire external drive using retrospect. Then I deleted everything I did not need. Copying for the DW CD to the external was normal. While before installing OS X, copying DW from the CD to the external resulted only in an alias on the external. Only DW behaves like that as far as I know.
1) Deleting stuff stupidly caused the loss of Xs preferences. I have no idea where this resides.
2) Since it is possible to boot from the DW CD why is the system necessary anymore once DW is copied to the drive?

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perchance i assumed you were having issues as you stated 1) and 2)
if i personally had doubts about my backup, then t wouldn't be a back up would it.
your choice, not saying it's a problem, you gotta rely on it, not I.
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[nnager]

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As luck would have it my TechTool Pro just arrived in the mail! I wanted to see if copying the CD to the external drive would work. It didnt in the same way DW didnt. It made a Alias too. I wasnt aware of this anomaly. To make a alias usually you do a command L. I will try your way too. But one of the reasons I wanted DW on an external HD is to be able to use it also on a PB.

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Please understand that you do NOT copy the CD of either TechTool Pro or of DiskWarrior to an external FW hard drive; you duplicate what you've installed on your internal hard drive. I use Retrospect 6 to do this without any problem. I used CCC in the past. Also, I don't try to pick and choose what parts of TTP or DW I keep on an external FW hard drive or on an eDrive.
TTP has to be installed in your hard drive's primary Applications Folder. DiskWarrior is not so fussy and can be installed in another folder. The keyword here is INSTALL first. TTP installs hundreds of visible and invisible files. That's why copying the CD to an external drive doesn't work.
To create an eDrive, first bootiyour TTP CD then run its Volume Structure test to make sure the drive you're installing it on is OK (the same test will repair problems). Then installing the eDrive on your hard drive.
You also can run TTP and DW from external FireWire hard drives, too. If you wish to do that, boot the CDs and then run their tests and finally their installation programs. Then you can use Retrospect 6 or CCC to duplicate the volume containing TTP and/or DW to your external hard drive.
Respectfully, Norm