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I bought a used 2G 10GB Windows ipod on ebay. I wanted to format it for the Mac. I ran updater 1.3.1 without success. The iPod About reads 1.5, Windows version. The ipod will mount on the desktop, but File Buddy tells me that it is Mac OS Standard rather than Extended. Is there a way to format it to Mac OS Extended? Keep in mind I am in OS 9.2
I already have one music library in itunes and did not want to mix it with another. So I tried to use Audion. Encoding went fine, but I was unable to drag and drop the mp3s or to use the "Copy to Portable" command. Audion 3 apparently will not recognize this iPod.
I also tried using Soundjam. Copying the files seemed to work -- got the progress bar. But then the transferred mp3s did not appear on the ipod.
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Chris Breen 
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 06:24 AM
You really need the 1.3 iPod Updater to work for you. Formatting it with anything else isn't a good idea. Make sure you've got the right version of the updater (see the link) and you're running 9.2.1 or later.
And, of course, you should be syncing your music with iTunes.
Chris
And, of course, you should be syncing your music with iTunes.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 07:14 AM
I ran the 1.3 updater. According to the Read Me, a utility is supposed to be installed but after running the updater I didn't see any utility. It doesn't like look anything was installed except the Read Me into my Documents folder.
By the way, I have your book Secrets of the iPod and found it usefull and well-written. Page 14 describes the difference between Windows and Mac formatted iPods. But I don't understand why, given that the iPod is a hard drive, I can't use utilities on it like Drive Setup, Disk Warrior, or Tech Tool.
By the way, I have your book Secrets of the iPod and found it usefull and well-written. Page 14 describes the difference between Windows and Mac formatted iPods. But I don't understand why, given that the iPod is a hard drive, I can't use utilities on it like Drive Setup, Disk Warrior, or Tech Tool.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 07:39 AM
After repeated attempts, I cannot get this ipod to say anything but Windows version. Either I bought a lemon on ebay (it is in mint condition) or there are some other techniques to Mac-format it that I am unaware of.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 07:41 AM
No, there's a real utility in there somewhere. Do a search for iPod and it should turn up.
And thanks for buying the book! I'm glad you've found it helpful. Here's the thing on formatting the iPod:
Apple suggests that you use only the iPod Updater to do this. However, I've successfully run Disk Warrior on a misbehaving iPod and it fixed it. In regard to formatting the iPod, I've found the iPod Updater does the job so I've been shy about using something other than that.
Chris
And thanks for buying the book! I'm glad you've found it helpful. Here's the thing on formatting the iPod:
Apple suggests that you use only the iPod Updater to do this. However, I've successfully run Disk Warrior on a misbehaving iPod and it fixed it. In regard to formatting the iPod, I've found the iPod Updater does the job so I've been shy about using something other than that.
Chris
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 01:50 PM
Aha! Here's what happened.
You have to have, at the root level of your hard drive, a folder called Applications (OS 9) with another folder inside it called Utilities. If these folders do not exists or are not arranged in this manner, you have to create some blank ones. Only then will the updater install.
So I was old to restore the ipod to factory settings, and it now reads OS Extended 1.3 as it should.
Still can't get Audion to recognize it.
You have to have, at the root level of your hard drive, a folder called Applications (OS 9) with another folder inside it called Utilities. If these folders do not exists or are not arranged in this manner, you have to create some blank ones. Only then will the updater install.
So I was old to restore the ipod to factory settings, and it now reads OS Extended 1.3 as it should.
Still can't get Audion to recognize it.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 05:22 PM
As a newbie, I'm thinking of purchasing a Mac and also have a Windows iPod. I'm assuming there will be no difficulty formatting it for the Mac under OS X?
Another question, all my music is stored on an external Maxtor drive in a NTFS partition. The drive is apparently compatible with Macs and has a firewire connection. I'm also assuming this means that OS X will recognize NTFS?
Thanks.
Another question, all my music is stored on an external Maxtor drive in a NTFS partition. The drive is apparently compatible with Macs and has a firewire connection. I'm also assuming this means that OS X will recognize NTFS?
Thanks.
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Posted 13 April 2005 - 04:36 PM
I did the same thing about a year ago. I actually had a 1st generation iPod (or at least the 1st one that was made for Windows, which I believe was still the 1st generation). Anyway, yes (and as the posts above mention) you can convert it to Mac. I hate to admit this but I now have a 4th Gen iPod and an iPod shuffle.
Anyway, yes the Mac can read NTFS disks. I actually have fallen so in love with my Mac that I even converted some of my external hard drives (some FAT32 and some NTFS) to the Mac file system. And you may want to just import all your songs (from this Maxtor drive you mention) to your new Mac. I don't know if space will be an issue (or DRM for that matter) but it may be better since the the access speed will certainly be better for your Mac if the files (i.e., songs) are in a Mac formatted file system.
Anyway, yes the Mac can read NTFS disks. I actually have fallen so in love with my Mac that I even converted some of my external hard drives (some FAT32 and some NTFS) to the Mac file system. And you may want to just import all your songs (from this Maxtor drive you mention) to your new Mac. I don't know if space will be an issue (or DRM for that matter) but it may be better since the the access speed will certainly be better for your Mac if the files (i.e., songs) are in a Mac formatted file system.
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Posted 14 April 2005 - 05:29 AM
jsl,
As Agent posted above, OS X Macs are able to read NTFS disks. However, you won't be able to write to them. If you need to keep your music on the external, you should convert it to FAT32 if you need to keep Windows compatibility or Mac OS Extended if not. You'll probably need to re-format the drive, so you'll need to back-up the drive. Although it could be tough if that's your only external HD.
As Agent posted above, OS X Macs are able to read NTFS disks. However, you won't be able to write to them. If you need to keep your music on the external, you should convert it to FAT32 if you need to keep Windows compatibility or Mac OS Extended if not. You'll probably need to re-format the drive, so you'll need to back-up the drive. Although it could be tough if that's your only external HD.
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