I'm not sure the panic over Freehand's future is justified.
Freehand was developed by Aldus, which also created PageMaker.
Adobe bought Aldus for PageMaker. Freehand was part of the package.
Adobe dumped Freehand because it already had Illustrator. Macromedia picked up Freehand.
Now Adobe is buying Macromedia. If they don't want to combine Freehand and Illustrator, I'm sure they will spin it off to someone else (Corel? Apple? Quark?)
Having already gotten rid of Freehand before, they either decided they made a mistake, or they really just want dreamweaver, flash, and shockwave--Freehand just happens to be part of the package.
Adobe executive discusses Macromedia buyout
#16
Posted 19 April 2005 - 06:16 AM
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Man, this really blows! I love Macromedia products and absolutely hate Adobe's offerings. And, you can have your Photoshop. It's is an overpriced POS as far as I'm concerned. I hope Apple takes this opportunity to deliver it's own industrial strength web design suite. And while they're at it, maybe they can produce a true Photoshop killer. They can do it. I know they can!
If you hate Adobe, then you have a problem, especially if you are stupid enough to label Photoshop as a POS. I've been using Photoshop since before 4.0 came out and must say it is an amazing app. I've gone from print to web design, and now to 3d and still can't live without it, it is the powerhouse graphics app. Labeling it as a POS only proves you suck at it and are not willing to take the time to learn it. If you did, you would find out it is not that hard to get the basics down quickly and all the rest is just built on the basics and you'll learn it over time. You remind me of the Windows lovers who say UNIX sucks. I just shake my head at the pure stupidity.
I love both Macromedia and Adobe. I'm anxious to see what this merger might do. I hope it means a suite with Photoshop/Illustrator/Flash/web dev. app (some new hybrid of GoLive and Dreamweaver) is going to come out.
Man, this really blows! I love Macromedia products and absolutely hate Adobe's offerings. And, you can have your Photoshop. It's is an overpriced POS as far as I'm concerned. I hope Apple takes this opportunity to deliver it's own industrial strength web design suite. And while they're at it, maybe they can produce a true Photoshop killer. They can do it. I know they can!
If you hate Adobe, then you have a problem, especially if you are stupid enough to label Photoshop as a POS. I've been using Photoshop since before 4.0 came out and must say it is an amazing app. I've gone from print to web design, and now to 3d and still can't live without it, it is the powerhouse graphics app. Labeling it as a POS only proves you suck at it and are not willing to take the time to learn it. If you did, you would find out it is not that hard to get the basics down quickly and all the rest is just built on the basics and you'll learn it over time. You remind me of the Windows lovers who say UNIX sucks. I just shake my head at the pure stupidity.
I love both Macromedia and Adobe. I'm anxious to see what this merger might do. I hope it means a suite with Photoshop/Illustrator/Flash/web dev. app (some new hybrid of GoLive and Dreamweaver) is going to come out.
#17
Posted 19 April 2005 - 09:48 AM
While I agree that Photoshop is still a decent app, Adobe has grown incredibly slack about providing good and timely bug patches for the rest of their apps. Visit the Adobe Forums for Illustrator to see people absolutely seething about Illustrator 11. Or for that matter, look at the raft of bugs in InDesign 3 that they have yet to patch.
This all started about Illustrator 9, when they seem to have gone to a "once-a-year update-or-die" policy. And simultaneously, they stopped releasing patches with nearly the frequency they used to. Very frustrating situation because they've long been my go-to company, but they've got to realize that if they're going to woo the prepress people away from Quark for good, then they need to actually provide patches for the bugs that are discovered and not just roll them into some new version. Prepress people frequently don't touch the latest version of software for up to a year after it is released because they're waiting for the bug fixes. If Adobe never releases any bug fixes, it may not get touched?
I will admit, I'm looking forward to seeing the interface wizards let loose on Macromedia non-intuitive and weird UI stuff. Every time I have to use Flash, I end up grinding my teeth...
This all started about Illustrator 9, when they seem to have gone to a "once-a-year update-or-die" policy. And simultaneously, they stopped releasing patches with nearly the frequency they used to. Very frustrating situation because they've long been my go-to company, but they've got to realize that if they're going to woo the prepress people away from Quark for good, then they need to actually provide patches for the bugs that are discovered and not just roll them into some new version. Prepress people frequently don't touch the latest version of software for up to a year after it is released because they're waiting for the bug fixes. If Adobe never releases any bug fixes, it may not get touched?
I will admit, I'm looking forward to seeing the interface wizards let loose on Macromedia non-intuitive and weird UI stuff. Every time I have to use Flash, I end up grinding my teeth...
#18
Posted 19 April 2005 - 10:00 AM
QuothTheRaven tells us more about himself than he does anything about Adobe. There is no way Photosohp isn't anything but a world-class piece of software that does exactly what it's designed to do - and you get to pick 14 different ways for any one thing to get it done. Whatever works you!
And yet this guy has the nerve.
"The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge..." /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
And yet this guy has the nerve.
"The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge..." /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



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