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Posted 08 October 2005 - 04:31 AM

Found this link on the legal situations regarding mp3search.ru.

Reading through that one can see that it appears it is legal to operate a site such as this in Russia, illegal to operate such a site in the United States and most other countries, and unclear whether or not it is legal be in the US (or most other countries) and purchase music downloads from mp3search.ru.

What does appear to be clear is that the creator of the copyrighted content, the artist, is being taken advantage of and is missing out on deserved income. Think about it... it has been stated that artists receive less than 6 cents of the 99 cent fee per download at iTMS. Do you really think that the artists (the songwriter and the performer) have willingly signed on to making a tenth of what they typically get for online music downloads, especially as they are campaigning to double their royalties?
Rather englightening to see people ranting on web sites that they are being "ripped-off" by Apple regarding iPod batteries, scratches on iPod nano screens, and failed lower memory slots on PowerBooks while at the same time you have people coming up with convoluted legal arguments to justify "ripping-off" songwriters and performers in order to save 89 cents.
It will be interesting to see what Jon Seff reports regarding the artists' opinions on mp3search.ru.
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Posted 08 October 2005 - 07:06 AM

unless you havent seen this:
Editors note on Russia
but you are are right, I would like to see more comments on the legality of this way of conducting business.
Besides the above link I have not seen more on this issue: i.e. is it legal to dump the price on songs if you work from another country ? Nepal ? 1cent a song ?
I find the prices on iTunes decent (roughly the same in Denmark as in US but we have a 25% VAT...)
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Posted 10 October 2005 - 02:07 PM

pdrayton, I never got an official response from anyone. But as I wrote in my blog back in July, they sell music by bands who don't allow their music to be sold as downloads (or, in the case of Metallica, band who only allow complete album sales, not individual track downloads). Which means the site doesn't have the blessing of the owners of the music. Does that make it illegal in Russia? I don't know the answer.

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 03:54 PM

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But as I wrote in my blog back in July, they sell music by bands who don't allow their music to be sold as downloads (or, in the case of Metallica, band who only allow complete album sales, not individual track downloads). Which means the site doesn't have the blessing of the owners of the music. Does that make it illegal in Russia? I don't know the answer.


Thanks for trying to sense of the legalities of this!
I have no desire for a business to take advantage of me, nor do I have the desire for my business to be taken advantage of by a customer. As some artists seem to be taken advantage of by mp3search, I think I'll stick with iTunes Music Store which has the blessing of all parties involved.
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Posted 11 October 2005 - 07:27 AM

just to try making a "longest thread ever" possible /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
how come it seems to be so hard to figure this one out ? There must be a policy somewhere on what you are allowed to do and what you can not.
To repeat: if I choose to (just as an example) establish my online music store in Nepal, would I be able to get away with (basically) nill artistic support ?
How come there is a copyright organisation that hunt down users of share web sites when this pass un noticed (?)
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Posted 11 October 2005 - 08:56 AM

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How come there is a copyright organisation that hunt down users of share web sites when this pass un noticed (?)


Because US laws only apply within the US.
Russian laws regarding copyrights fall far short of most other countries... and Russia only emerged from Communism around 13-14 years ago.
It will probably take serious negotiations between the US government and Russian government to get Russian copyright laws up-to-speed with the rest of the world. Much the same thing happened when the US government pressured the Chinese government to respect software copyrights.
Alas, Microsoft has a lot more clout with the US government than musicians.
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