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#1 User is offline   supermansdead81 Icon

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Posted 15 October 2005 - 03:46 AM

Does anyone use it and if so then how good is it? Is there any other program that is comparable or better? I want to use it for dvd copy but like that it mentions divx codec conversion. Would popcorn do the trick?
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 08:18 AM

Popcorn's functionality was rolled into Toast 7.
I'm still using Toast 6 and Popcorn because I didn't feel that the DivX functionality was enough to warrant the upgrade.

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Posted 15 October 2005 - 08:39 AM

I've got it. It works just fine for DVD copying. You can choose either to create a DivX-compressed copy of the DVD on your disk, or simply burn the contents to a new DVD (the built-in MPEG2 encoder will reencode the DVD to fit on a standard DVD-R disc, with relatively minimal quality loss).
Keep in mind that Toast does not have a deCSS mechanism, so you will have to use a different programme to rip copy-protected DVDs, although they can then be reencoded and burned with toast.
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 10:36 AM

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Toast does not have a deCSS mechanism,


So if somebody were to purchase..say [this surf flick] on DVD, Toast T 7 couldn't make a copy w/o additional rippin' software? I was in hopes it would like yesteryear making personal copies of purchased VHS tapes. Guess I'll just stick with Toast 6.
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 10:50 AM

Doug,
Damn, I had my volume up and hit the link you provided. I think I lost a couple of heart beats.
Peter
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 11:00 AM

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So if somebody were to purchase..say [this surf flick] on DVD, Toast T 7 couldn't make a copy w/o additional rippin' software? I was in hopes it would like yesteryear making personal copies of purchased VHS tapes. Guess I'll just stick with Toast 6.



deCSS is technically illegal in the United States, so no major DVD backup apps will do it. You're always going to need some sort of "underground" ripper to decrypt the DVD before ripping it. It isn't difficult to find one though.
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 12:08 PM

ooops, sorry 'bout that -Peter (don't ya just hate that) /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Well, we don't want to post on the forum about black market software, or illegal ways of making copies of a copy written DVD. But I'll figure out a way to do this in the future that I can rationalize in a legal since of the matter. Since we own the DVD you'd think we could make multiple copies w/o a fuss, but I do understand the legal side of it. Thanks for the input -Ty. And just keep Toast-T v6.x for the time being which is great software.
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 12:17 PM

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ooops, sorry 'bout that -Peter (don't ya just hate that)
Well, we don't want to post on the forum about black market software, or illegal ways of making copies of a copy written DVD. But I'll figure out a way to do this in the future that I can rationalize in a legal since of the matter. Since we own the DVD you'd think we could make multiple copies w/o a fuss, but I do understand the legal side of it. Thanks for the input -Ty. And just keep Toast-T v6.x for the time being which is great software.



It's both an idiotic and contradictory law. Fair Use law states that a person can make a backup copy of media they own for personal use. However, the Digital Millenium Copyright Act states that attempting to subvert any copy protection scheme is illegal. Basically, it just means that the makers of deCSS applications risk being sued by the MPAA. It is extreme questionable in a legal sense, and completely irrational from any logical point of view.
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 02:36 PM

You understand, of course, that that's your own subjective viewpoint.
Many others would totally understand the need and logic of the current law.
Bottom line: if you want the law changed, find a politician who agrees with
that stance and do everything you can to promote his/her campaign.
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 05:09 PM

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You understand, of course, that that's your own subjective viewpoint.
Many others would totally understand the need and logic of the current law.
Bottom line: if you want the law changed, find a politician who agrees with
that stance and do everything you can to promote his/her campaign.



I know from your other posts that you tend to take a very authoritarian viewpoint when it comes to law of any sort. Just remember that public outcry is one way things get changed.
Bottom Line: Everything I say is from my "subjective viewpoint". I don't need a disclaimer attached to my posts.
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Posted 16 October 2005 - 03:51 AM

Toast 7 is quite good, and for a while buy.com had rebates
and incentives bringing it down to $18. Cheaper than Popcorn.
If you want a registered copy of Popcorn cheap, PM me.
Nonetheless, you will need something like MacTheRipper to
de-protect the commercial DVDs that you own for backup
purposes. Go to mactheripper.com for the latest free
version. If you need more horsepower, join MTR's forum
and see how to get version 3.
MTR will put a very big folder (upwards of 8gb) on your
HD, so leave room. Toast 7 (or Popcorn) will then use
that folder's VIDEO_TS folder to burn a DVD copy.
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Posted 16 October 2005 - 03:59 AM

yup recently upgraded to 7 and (sofar) one of the best new details is the ability to encode from within Toast (used other software for this in the past). It can even let you bypass the myriad of compression settings by Automatic encoding, it fitted a VHS tape (32GB recorded to HD) onto a DVD 4.7GB, nice...
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Posted 16 October 2005 - 08:31 AM

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VHS tape (32GB recorded to HD) onto a DVD 4.7GB, nice...



::cool beans:: iLike-->a few VHS videos I had to edit/snip-OFF part of it to fit in the past using iMovie->iDVD. This is good info...thanks -Rugby
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