[DavidCar]

I think the superdrive is still dual layer, it has just been deemphasised. Isn't "double layered" and dual layer the same thing? I saw a spec on another website that just said it was "DL"
Slot-loading SuperDrive (DVDRW/CD-RW)
Maximum Write: 4x DVD-R, DVDR, DVDRW, and DVD-RW; 24x CD-R; 10x CD-RW
Maximum Read: 8x DVD-ROM (single layer); 6x DVD (double layered), DVD-9, DVD-R, DVDR, DVD-RW, DVDRW; 24x CD

[sigma8]

Doh! So much for using my 3 FW800 hard drive enclosures with this stuff. Maybe there will be a PCI express card thing for FW800. Now the question is: adopt early? Or wait for the better superdrive, and some faster-than-USB external connection?

[hmurchison]

FFS people ....read the damn specs before you start complaining. DL is supported although the drive might be a bit slower.

[minderbinder]

It looks like the new superdrives can't burn dual layer while the old ones could.
Apple's site is very confusing on this, I wish they'd make it more clear.

[jmacak]

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Does Apple's color scheme for the MacBook web pages bother anyone as much as it bothers me? I had to highlight the text in order to read it because the contrast in colors between the text and the background is too slight. You'd think that a company that puts so much emphasis on appearance would have done a better job.

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Yes, it sure does. Apple as had beautifully designed web pages in the past that were also highly legible on-screen. Well, the MacBook Pro page does look pretty, but it sure would be nice to be able to read the fine print too! This is a definite step backwards for Apple's web design team!
Jim M.
Milwaukee, WI
Apple Certified Help Desk Specialist
www.yourmacdoc.com

[heisetax]

Old technology is discounted if the new technology is definately better. In these cases the old technology is probably still better for the average user. Definately better for the high end user. This lack of dropping the price is an indication that even Apple really does not believe that the Intel Mac is any better than the PPC Mac. Actually if you compare the prices, the 15" IntelMacBook Pro is actually a price increase. There goes that false hope that Intel Macs would cost less than PPC Macs.
This also shows at least someone at Apple knows that everyone is not ready for or willing to purchase an Intel Mac. My son is not ready, I'm not ready, & all of my Mac User friends are not ready. We all still see this as just another story being told to us by Steve Jobs.
The IntelMacBook Pro lacks a FW800 port. How can Apple consider this to be a Pro model with no FW800 port? I know that my son & me both depend on our FW800 drives & arrays to be an integral part of our Mac operation. In fact I've been operating my MDD PowerMac for 2-3 months from OS 10.4.3 running from a FW800 group os drives. When I run my 17" PowerBook under OS 10.4.3 it is using this group of FW800 drives.
Apple, where is the FW800ports??? As well as those, we will soon be adding, where is the external SATA port(s) to that list.
I can see having to add these things to my 4-year old MMD PowerMac. I just shouldn't have to do that with a new Mac.




Bill the TaxMan

[Netizen_Kane]

I'll pass. I'm still holding out for the 3.2 pound, 0.9" thick MacBook Nano.

[rwmoore]

Oh where, oh where has my Firewire 800 port gone! Oh where, oh where could it be? ..... /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Nobody]

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Does Apple's color scheme for the MacBook web pages bother anyone as much as it bothers me? I had to highlight the text in order to read it because the contrast in colors between the text and the background is too slight. You'd think that a company that puts so much emphasis on appearance would have done a better job.

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Looks fine on my PC! Must be your Mac. /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[sk8erboi]

"8x DVD-ROM (single layer); 6x DVD (double layered)"
davidcar,
that's a read speed. it can read dual-layer media. nowhere does it say it can write dual-layer

[montgomery_burns]

Does anybody remember the Powerbook Duo? I think it was the first laptop to feature a docking station connector. And then Apple just abandoned their laptop docking technology for the past decade even though they make iPod docks today. What will it take for Apple to start making docking connectors and docking stations for their laptops again?
And now that Apple includes the Mighty Mouse with their desktop computers, when can we expect to see a Mighty Trackpad on their laptops?

[Tau_Myx]

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Don't put light gray text on a BLACK background!

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I'm sorry, what is wrong with this? The sight looks perfectly fine to me. Are you making the background white or something?
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

[minderbinder]

"In these cases the old technology is probably still better for the average user."
How's that? The average user probably doesn't need FW800, and is probably running mostly first party Apple apps. Assuming you don't miss one of the dropped features and use little or no third party software, the upside is a HUGE speed increase. For high end users and people heavily dependent on SW that hasn't been ported yet, sure. But there are many users who use primarily the apple software, and they're in for a treat if they upgrade today.
"This lack of dropping the price is an indication that even Apple really does not believe that the Intel Mac is any better than the PPC Mac."
What kind of odd logic is that? The company's belief that the product is weak is shown by a HIGHER price? Makes no sense.
"Actually if you compare the prices, the 15" IntelMacBook Pro is actually a price increase."
I assume this is based on having to spend extra cash on upgrading the couple features that have been dropped? I'm disappointed to see those cuts, but I'd still argue that the huge speed increase adds more value than the lost features.
"This also shows at least someone at Apple knows that everyone is not ready for or willing to purchase an Intel Mac."
Of course everyone is not willing or ready. The software isn't finished being ported yet - whether you updgrade now depends on whether your apps have been ported yet. We've known that since day one of the intel announcement.
Personally, I can't wait to upgrade, I'd place an order today if they announced an intel mini.
"How can Apple consider this to be a Pro model with no FW800 port?"
I assume they're considering the standard to be a failure and are abandoning it in favor of USB2. Sad, but it happens sometimes when apple tries to create the standards instead of going with the industry consensus.

[montgomery_burns]

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i am a lifelong apple user (since 1984) but i had to switch to a viao for travel because of weight and battery life. yes i hate myself, but i was hoping for a major battery life improvement and some weight reduction

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Many PC laptops also let you remove the optical drive and stick in a second battery for increased run time. The Powerbook G3 had this capability as well. But it looks like this new MacBook does not offer a multipurpose drive bay.