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Parts of JPEG patent rejected; Forgent to appeal

#15 User is offline   richcon Icon

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Posted 30 May 2006 - 11:12 AM

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What people are going to find with JPGs, is that 20 years out when they try to zoom in and see more detail, there won't be any detail to see because the average consumer doesn't understand what "LOSSY" means.


Then it sounds like how most people archive their negatives (the trash can), and store their photo prints (in an old, sticky shoebox, or in a pile of grease, food, and other photos on their coffee table). You don't want to know what some of the photographs I've been asked to "restore" by some of my clients have looked like - and they were less than ten years old! (My favorite is the black and white photocopy of the computer printout of the scan of the color photographic copy of the original, where they just can't find anything better!)
Some people know what "archive" means, some people don't. JPEG is nothing new for that - with high bit rate encoding and careful archiving, JPEGs will be fine twenty years from now. Most people won't do that.
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 11:20 AM

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The problems aren't technical or legal--people just don't like change.

There is also the problem of legacy files. I have thousands of digital images on my hard drive and the vast majority of them are in the JPEG format. If software developers simply drop support of JPEG that will leave nearly all computer users in dire straitsit is after all the developers that will be forced to pay licensing fees, not the average computer user. So, even if everyone stopped creating JPEGs tomorrow in favor of JPEG2000, PNG or whatever other compressed image format, that still leaves the problem of millions of trillions legacy JPEG files on hundreds of millions of computers that will have a continued need to be viewable.
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 11:43 AM

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When I was a youngling my 3rd grade teacher taught us that the metric system was coming and that the English system feet and inches would be gone by the year 2000. Where is the metric system today? Even some highway signs that once became metric in the late 70's and early 80's have disappeared and reverted to pure English.

Blame the government. Until the law says so, people won't change, because there is no incentive. The United Kingdon made the change in 1970. Everyone got used to it a year later. By '73, no one could even imagine doing business the old way.
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 12:53 PM

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Perhaps I should have been more clear.


I figured it was just some semantics that I couldn't decipher in the morning.
I would think that while they can't appeal, they could probably just launch a new suit, providing they have better evidence of prior art.
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 01:09 PM

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I got the name from the Iron Chef series on the Food Network. Where did you get yours?


I got mine from Fuji Network (long long before FoodTV even licensed the show.)
BTW, I have been around way longer with the handle here (1998 or so) before they wiped out all the ID handles into the new forums.
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 03:22 PM

Where is the metric system today?
Everywhere but your backward country /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 03:33 PM

iron_chef:
please get a more original handle, will ya?
IronChef3:
I got the name from the Iron Chef series on the Food Network. Where did you get yours?
The point isn't where you got it; it's that someone's already using it (or something very, very similar). It's consider to be very bad form (or "netiquette" - I hate that term) to use a handle that someone else is already using.
You've only made 2 posts - you really should pick a more unique name.
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Posted 30 May 2006 - 10:16 PM

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Iron_chef:
please get a more original handle, will ya?
IronChef3:
I got the name from the Iron Chef series on the Food Network. Where did you get yours?
The point isn't where you got it; it's that someone's already using it (or something very, very similar). It's consider to be very bad form (or "netiquette" - I hate that term) to use a handle that someone else is already using.
You've only made 2 posts - you really should pick a more unique name.


Does anyone else see the irony in the discussion of the originality of someone's handle in a forum topic that is covering patents and prior art? /forums/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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