[Nobody]

I think it started when I say this writing etched in black on the screen. Next thing I know my 667 DVI would not boot. I tried Norton Disk doctor, I even formatted the hard drive and reinstalled OSX. Heck; I even swapped my old 20 gig HD into my Ti with no success; ERROR 11 or something. Hardware test CD was OK on both hard drives. Finally I just swapped my 48 Gig hard drive back in. The only thing I did different was not plugging in the Logitech USB mouse. Now it works like new so far. I plugged the USB mouse back and it still works. Could it be a virus? Does a Format destroy a virus? Why didn't my old 20 Gig HD work?

What a day...

[Nobody]

Well, if you had a kernel panic all you had to do was wait it out anyways. the whole thing with a kernel panic is that the system gets confused and doesnt know what to do so it tries to turn itself off.

I think images/icons/rolleyes.gif

[Nobody]

Cybrix: you can wait until hell freezes over in a kernal panic and your computer will still be just sitting there. This is because the comptuer has done everything it can to try to recover and it has just given up. Sadly, some guy named Godel proved that computers will always have situations where they do this. images/icons/mad.gif

Buddy: I doubt it was a virus. Hardrives aren't prefect and sometimes parts of them get corrupted. If the right part goes bad just forget it. Formatting does fix these errors, which is probably why your system works fine now. Now there are virii that will survive a format, but they are very rare. You would probably be able to tell if you had one of these. As far as the other HD, that is a mystery that will probably never be totally solved.

[Outsider]

I should probably stay out of this one because I don't have a Mac and have never worked on fixing one before. But you're problem is not unheard of in the PC world. It sounds like your USB port has gone fudgey. Often, my wife's computer will freeze and need to be restarted. She is using an older OS. In order for it to successfully restart, all of the USB devices have to be unplugged. Nothing is wrong with the system, otherwise. I would guess your USB ports or devices are the culprit.

The USB device always work after a successful reboot.

[ 06-26-2002: Message edited by: Outsider ]

[Nobody]

I also forgot; I optimized the system recently, in fact it seems like that's when it all began. Perhaps a partial optimization is also a possible cause.

[Nobody]

parsec

Sorry, you're right here... i think i was thinking of something else. Who knows... i was at work and i fix windoze computers all day so i was used to their problems and those fixes... images/icons/tongue.gif

[Nobody]

It's not just me. Check out this from Apple forum:

RE: Ti800 10.1.5 = Kernal Panic and Bad HD?
(msg # 2.: Posted Jun 27, 02 2:22 am)

Posts: 1
PowerBook 800
Mac OS X (10.1)
I have (nearly) the same problems. I bought a new PB800 a month ago, updated to 1.5 and I've had at least one Kernel Panic on every session ever since. Plus numerous screen freezes.
The Mac support team here at work erased and reinstalled everything, with OS9 on a seperate partition, yesterday. They 'upgraded' me to 1.5 again. Got home, started up, and - Kernel Panic!

I'm going to try going with 1.4 today, after another erase reinstall sesh. I've pretty much had enough of this - I switched from a PC, which although horrible to use, never gave me any trouble.

William B. Gates RE: Ti800 10.1.5 = Kernal Panic and Bad HD
(msg # 3.: Posted Jun 27, 02 4:50 am)

Posts: 520
667 Mhz DVI
Mac OS X (10.1)
48 GIG, 5400 RPM 512 CL2 I had the same thing. I assummed it was Norton 7 and I did something wrong optimizing with speed disk. Too bad I read this now. I just updated AGAIN to OS 10.1.5

My 667 DVI got so bad it would not boot up. I formatted and re-installed 10.1.4 with no success but I kept using disk doctor, and supposing it was my hard drive I swapped back to my old 20 Gig with OS 9.1 and it still would not work! Hard ware CD revealed nothing. So I switched back to my 48 gig hard drive, I think I used disk doctor again and suddenly everything worked fine. go figure. I tend to think it is the upgrade to 10.1.5 now but if it happens again I am sticking with 10.1.4. Did any of you guys that went thru this horror have Norton on your hard drive?

[Nobody]

DO NOT UPGRADE TO 10.1.5!

EVERYONE I know who has upgraded has been having kernel panics.

EVERYONE.

[Nobody]

One thing I've learned from this headache;

1) After reinstalling OSX I am more mindful to put software and files in a better order.

2) Backup info like quicktime keys, photos, short movies, software installers, etc. I have a CD burner in my 667 DVI; may as well spend 15 minutes to burn a few backup CD's.

So now I can rest a little easier anticipating the next 10.1.5 kernal panic...then I will stick to 10.1.4.
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A little late for me but thanks anyway Beachmac.

[Nobody]

I upgraded to 10.1.5 on a PB 667 DVI when it came out. I'm using a Microsoft USB optical mouse. Never had a Kernal panic. Ever.

Don't know why others seem to be having problems.

Cheers,
Dan

[Nobody]

I have upgraded to 10.1.5 also and never had a problem with it. If anything it seems snappier in OS X now!

I have a new iBook 700 with comobo drive and i use a microsoft usb mouse...